jewelry in dojo

[rachel]

Several women in my class wear hoop earrings. I think it's a bad idea.during self defense moves they can get them ripped out. Any of you have women who wear earrings or has your instructor had them remove jewelry?

[rmcrobertson]

I try to get all the jewelery off people before they start class. Not only can it get ripped out, but I personally don't want to catch a charm bracelet or whatever across the eye. But sometimes, especially with beginners, ya just puts up with it for a while.

I feel the same way about long nails, hand or foot. About six years ago now, I nicked a sparring partner about a quarter-inch from thee corner of the eye...since then, I clips 'em. Short.

I've also been cruel enough to weasel a teen or two into swallowing their gum, but that's another story...

[KenpoGirl]

I am not a person that wears a lot of jewellery as a rule. I currently only wear an necklace with a charm and hoop ear rings.

I completely see your point but I never seem to remember to removed them, and luckily I haven't had an issue yet. With the exception of catching one in my instructors gi when he was teaching a throw. Luckily he didn't move and I removed the earrings. The necklace has never been a problem as yet.

I use to wear a couple rings but hated taking them off and putting them back on. Not to mention I lost one ring because of this. :( So now I leave all my rings off all the time.

Dot

[Jill666]

Initially I wore my wedding band to class, now I take even that off. I find my hands swell a bit if punching, lifting etc. Plus if a finger gets jammed- ballon time. I don't wear any other jewelery to class. I'm not there to be a fashion plate. Painted toenails (SHORT painted toesnails) are my only adornment;)

As for the hoop earrings, a friend of mine got one of hers ripped out the hard way by a psych patient when we used to work in ER. Earlobe flapping in two pieces- blood everywhere. Stitches & plastic surgery.

I have no patience with chix who show up in full makeup and jewery with the big hair. Sorry I plan to sweat when I train.Cripes.

:soapbox:

[Pyros]

I have been to several schools within over a decade and all of them had had strict rules against jewelry. None of the schools have allowed jewelry of any kind on while training and if something had been forgotten on (sometimes someone forgot to remove a ring or something) it was "punished" with some pushups or running laps.

[KenpoGirl]

Originally posted by Jill666
I have no patience with chix who show up in full makeup and jewery with the big hair. Sorry I plan to sweat when I train.Cripes.

:soapbox:

Whoa!!! My kind of fellow Martial Artist. Whoo Hoo!!!

Nothing I use to hate more, going to cardio class or to the gym and find those chicks wearing the latest spandex outfit and full hair and make-up. All show and no workout. Might as well just wear a big ole arrow over your head saying "Look At Me"

If you're going to workout or train then TRAIN. Grrrrrrr

Okay I'll get off my :soapbox: now.

Dot

[Jill666]

Yup- then later you strut on the beach in that little string bikini! HA!

[Rich Parsons]

Originally posted by rachel
Several women in my class wear hoop earrings. I think it's a bad idea.during self defense moves they can get them ripped out. Any of you have women who wear earrings or has your instructor had them remove jewelry?


Jewelry can get caught and rip out and or hurt the other person as well.

I ask for it to be removed. If not then I usually reach out to do a head throw for example of a technique and then just put my thumb over their ear lobe. This allows you to push in on their ear and have the back of he ear ring press against the head. This causes mild pain and no permanent damage. The student usually blushes (* Male or Female *) and then asks to remove their ear ring(s).

If it is a necklace, a Grab to the collar and then people realize that OOPS! this jewelry can damaged or hurt me. A couple of times of this causes most people to learn.


Mind you this is not done maliciously, only harsh enough to get their attention.

As for sweating when you work out I agree all for that. :D

With Respect

Rich
:asian:

[Hollywood1340]

Stay away from Bikini's myself, hard to find 'em in my size. I paint my toenails too, right now contemplating the "Dice look". My reason being is I'm barefoot alot and your toes get boring after awhile, and it's always good when your sparring parnter notices them, he'll follow your foot the point it hits him, kinda funny. My fingernails stay clean though. Judoka do have our standards. LOL

[KenpoGirl]

Originally posted by Hollywood1340
Stay away from Bikini's myself, hard to find 'em in my size. I paint my toenails too, right now contemplating the "Dice look". My reason being is I'm barefoot alot and your toes get boring after awhile, and it's always good when your sparring parnter notices them, he'll follow your foot the point it hits him, kinda funny. My fingernails stay clean though. Judoka do have our standards. LOL

Just the thought makes me want to ........ :barf:

lol


Originally posted by Rich Parsons
This allows you to push in on their ear and have the back of he ear ring press against the head. This causes mild pain and no permanent damage. The student usually blushes (* Male or Female *) and then asks to remove their ear ring(s).

If it is a necklace, a Grab to the collar and then people realize that OOPS! this jewelry can damaged or hurt me. A couple of times of this causes most people to learn.


Well, guess we are fore warned now. :anic: Know I'll be strippin off the jewls before we ever meet. ;)

[TLH3rdDan]

yeah jewelry is not a good idea in class... an even worse idea is stuff that is worn and not seen... like nipple rings lol had an instructor that had that done and failed to inform anyone of it... it didnt work out for him too well during class when we were working some grappling stuff and it somehow managed to get ripped... that was the loudest i have ever heard anyone scream lol

[bart]

Hey There,

I've seen some earlobes torn and it's just not a good idea. Normally I take off my watch and a metal bracelet I wear (a Crucian Hook for those who know it can make a nasty gouge) before I train. When I started to train in Eskrima I noticed that it wasn't really an issue if we were working larga mano and so now it depends on the range the practice will be in.

I think it's best to take all the jewelry off and in most schools I've been in, they make you take it off. The only exception is the Eskrima, but if you want to keep your watch intact, it's still a good idea to lose the jewelry.

[Yari]

Originally posted by rachel
Any of you have women who wear earrings or has your instructor had them remove jewelry?

I always tell people using jewelry to remove it.

Concerning rings if a finger is broken or brused, the ring might have to be cut off.

Concerning necklaces, they can cut the neck, and make a very ugly scare.

Concerning earrings (peircing), they can get ripped out, and in worse cases take the whole earlobe with it. And the ear will not look the same.

I think the price for taking off the jewelry is so small concidering the price of the damage if something were to happen.


/Yari

[GouRonin]

I wear my wedding ring 24/7 and don't take it off for no one and no body. As a result I will admit that I have to get it re-shaped once in a while because it tends to flatten but I don't take it off.

I don't wear earings anymore because they kept getting ripped out etc and I take off my neck knife when I work out but not the ring.

If you want it off then pull it off my cold dead body...that is if I left you with enough fingers to do it.

[Yari]

Originally posted by GouRonin
As a result I will admit that I have to get it re-shaped once in a while because it tends to flatten but I don't take it off.



It's gotta hurt when they re-shap it while it's on your finger ;)


/Yari

[GouRonin]

They do a better job than when I just used to flatten my hand on a concrete block and bang on the ring with a hammer.
:rolleyes:

[Cthulhu]

I wear my wedding ring on a lanyard around my neck. The fiber doesn't cut into my neck like a precious metal chain would and I don't have to worry about having it cut off my finger. It's never been a problem with my FMA training, even while sparring. The rare occasions now that I wear a gi, it will occasionally fly out, but never in an intrusive way.

As a rule, I disallow all jewelry except for wedding bands, but make sure the people who decide to leave the ring on their finger are aware of the potential consequences. Ear-/nose-/nipple-rings are a big no-no. Metal chains (necklaces and bracelets) as well. Big-ass biker rings are definitely out.

Cthulhu

[Pyros]

Originally posted by GouRonin
I wear my wedding ring 24/7 and don't take it off for no one and no body. As a result I will admit that I have to get it re-shaped once in a while because it tends to flatten but I don't take it off.

I have seen completely smooth ring tear out the other guys eyelids.

[ace]

I have My Tongue post & my wedding ring:D

[GouRonin]

Originally posted by Pyros
I have seen completely smooth ring tear out the other guys eyelids.

Good.

[Kirk]

Originally posted by GouRonin
I wear my wedding ring 24/7 and don't take it off for no one and no body. As a result I will admit that I have to get it re-shaped once in a while because it tends to flatten but I don't take it off.

Yeah, I used to know a guy with that attitude, back when I was
an R&D Electronics Tech. He agreed it was a bad idea when he
was in the hospital, getting his finger sewn back on after about
2 amps of current ran through it.

[GouRonin]

I saw a guy get his pants caught in a thresher. I guess we all better stop wearing clothes.

[Pyros]

Originally posted by GouRonin
Good.

I didn't think it was good. It was a guy who refused to remove his engage ring disregarding the dojo rules. During a wrestling match he somehow scratched the partner's face from behind and teared an eyelid. After that he tried to get away without paying damages as he said it wasn't his fault.

[Nightingale]

the only jewelry I wear in the studio is:

a tiny CBR ring in my upper left ear (cartiledge piercing) that takes pliers to remove and another person and a set of pliers to put back in. I've worn it for years and have never had an issue with it.

a body piercing or two that is covered by tight clothing and sometimes medical tape just in case, so it can't get caught or snag on anything. Again, had em for quite some time, and never had a problem, because i'm careful.

[GouRonin]

Originally posted by Pyros
I didn't think it was good.

This upsets me greatly.


Originally posted by Pyros
It was a guy who refused to remove his engage ring disregarding the dojo rules. During a wrestling match he somehow scratched the partner's face from behind and teared an eyelid. After that he tried to get away without paying damages as he said it wasn't his fault.

It wasn't his fault. It was the fault of the guy who let him engage in the match knowing that he had the ring on.

I accept full responsibility when I step onto the floor. If the ring is a no-go then I am a no-show.

[Pyros]

Originally posted by GouRonin
It wasn't his fault. It was the fault of the guy who let him engage in the match knowing that he had the ring on.

He didn't notice it. We don't always remember to inspect everyone in our class we meet. When you're tired and sweating and you are told to again switch partners, you don't always remember to start thinking "now did this guy remember to follow the dojo rules? I'd better check it out before I start..." Usually the pace is quite fast anyway. And when everyone have signed in they are assumed to have also agreed to follow rules. At least many of us assume so.


I accept full responsibility when I step onto the floor. If the ring is a no-go then I am a no-show.

Well, accidents can happen even to suppreme grandmasters.

[TKDman]

McDojo! We love to see your smile!

Billions served.

[ekkaia]

i had an earring pierced in the cartiledge ripped off during a piggy back race when i trained in judo. it was newly pierced which is why i didn't take it off, but in the end i had to let it close up anyway cause there was no way in hell i could get it back in place with all the swelling. nevertheless i pierced it again a few mths later, but it got infected by unrelated causes (i slept on it :S) lol. then i had the other ear pierced in the cartiledge too, but that also got infected cause i slept on it (damn sensitive ears), so now i don't have any piercings up the top. i do however have some in the lobes, but i don't wear sleepers (the hoop kind), so there's never been any problems. rings, watches and bracelets i take off, but the necklace stays on. there's been no problems with it because it stays hidden under the training shirts. some of my training partners leave their watches on but i have a tendency to rip if off during training, which ideally shouldn't distract them (imagine getting into a dangerous altercation and being flustered cause your watch came off!). i think jewellery can be excellent weapons, so even if they come off in class remember they have great uses as well ;)

[rachel]

my friend and I were at kempo class on monday night and we were doing self defense techniques. one of the guys grabbed her from behind in a bear hug around her waist. She's the one who got the belly ring.needless to say she felt it pull real good and had to stop and look at it to make sure she wasn't bleeding. I think jewelry is a big no no in the dojo.;) the schools should have rules and the people who wear jewelry should think.Hey can I injure myself or someone else.If someone wants to risk hurting themself that's one thing but if they can injure someone else, they should have to remove it. It's not a fashion show. it's a school.

[KickChick]

All this talk about "chicks" wearing jewelry while training ...
Not this chick!
School rule .... no jewelry. Can cause injury to yourself and others.


One former student had so many piercings on her face/mouth that it would take close to 15 min. before class for her to remove all of them and when she didn't and it came time to sparring ... she'd be chinging ...changing, pinging, and tinkling her way across the floor :rofl:

yup ... a sidekick to the stomach with a belly ring is no fun. My friend had hers hung up on her hogu and then ripped out after a kick to the stomach!

I never wear the wedding rings to train... (only time that it is allowed ;) ) Wouldn't want to have any "rocks" pop out!:eek:

Here's another annoyance .... I have a few women in my cardio class that I teach that come in after they get their pedicure and fake nails .....trying to make a fist while putting on the boxing gloves. What if I break a nail???? I just show them my calloused hands & feet :shrug::

[Nightingale]

Originally posted by rachel
my friend and I were at kempo class on monday night and we were doing self defense techniques. one of the guys grabbed her from behind in a bear hug around her waist. She's the one who got the belly ring.needless to say she felt it pull real good and had to stop and look at it to make sure she wasn't bleeding. I think jewelry is a big no no in the dojo.;) the schools should have rules and the people who wear jewelry should think.Hey can I injure myself or someone else.If someone wants to risk hurting themself that's one thing but if they can injure someone else, they should have to remove it. It's not a fashion show. it's a school.

tell her to either:

wear a tight tank top that covers the piercing under her gi. This will prevent it from snagging or anyone getting hold of it, because it will make it lie flat against the body (tell her to make sure she puts it towards the right one day, and left next, or the piercing will heal leaning to one side) The kind of tanks they wear for modern dance works great, and any dance shop will have them.

or

put a bandaid or piece of adhesive tape over the piercing for the same reasons.

the tank top is easier on the skin and better for the piercing, though.

[Pyros]

I protect my "jewels" with a groin guard, I don't want to risk anything.

* "Whad'ya mean, I don't understand English, eh?" *

[qizmoduis]

Originally posted by Pyros
I protect my "jewels" with a groin guard, I don't want to risk anything.

* "Whad'ya mean, I don't understand English, eh?" *

You better hope your school doesn't implement a strict no jewelry rule!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Elfan]

I prefer that my partner takes off the jewlery they can, unfortunantly some stuff like belly button rings (what were they thinking?) can't be taken out easily. Its a real pain (pun intended) for them.

[Nightingale]

removing a piercing once its COMPLETELY healed (usually 6-12 months for total healing) is fairly easy to do, provided its a piercing that's through normal skin, like navel, eyebrow, etc..., and the piercing will stay open for a few days without jewelry. You just have to put something slippery, like lotion or vaseline on the jewelry before you try to put it back in. labret (lower lip), nose, and tongue tend to close quickly if the jewelry is removed even after its healed, though.

if you're really paranoid with something like a navel pierce, an eyebrow or something, you can run the clear elastic jewelry beading string through it and tie it in a small loop so it is snug against the skin, but not tight. You can get this line at a craft store like michaels, the bigger the gauge, the better in this case (only comes in up to about 18 gauge, and the average piercing is 12 or 14 gauge). DO NOT USE FISHING LINE. Its coarse and can cut you if its pulled. (think of a cheese slicer here...ouch!). The jewelry line will simply stretch. I do this if I'm going to be on a long airplane flight and don't want to set off the metal detectors. Works well if you know you have to have x-rays too.

[Kiz Bell]

Originally posted by Elfan
I prefer that my partner takes off the jewlery they can, unfortunantly some stuff like belly button rings (what were they thinking?) can't be taken out easily. Its a real pain (pun intended) for them.

A friend of mine has a ring in a very private and very sensitive spot. Even though she's had it for quite a few years, because of it's positioning it's very hard for her to remove and replace, so she leaves it in permanently. She once had a very painful accident with it on her pushbike once, so it's not just martial artists that suffer "freindly fire" from their jewellery.

[Nightingale]

whats a pushbike?

[Kirk]

Originally posted by nightingale8472
I do this if I'm going to be on a long airplane flight and don't want to set off the metal detectors.

Do you not have to go through metal detectors if you're going on
a short flight? :D

[Kirk]

Originally posted by Kiz Bell
A friend of mine has a ring in a very private and very sensitive spot. Even though she's had it for quite a few years, because of it's positioning it's very hard for her to remove and replace, so she leaves it in permanently. She once had a very painful accident with it on her pushbike once, so it's not just martial artists that suffer "freindly fire" from their jewellery.

If it's the private sensitive spot I'm thinking of, a groin cup will
protect it.

[Kiz Bell]

Originally posted by nightingale8472
whats a pushbike?

Bicycle, also called a "pushie".

[Nightingale]

Originally posted by Kirk
Do you not have to go through metal detectors if you're going on
a short flight? :D

you do, but I'll just leave the jewelry out for a short flight. If I'm just flying from Ontario (CA) to San Francisco or Vegas, I won't bother with putting something else like jewelry line or plastic jewelry in the piercings. But, for example, when I fly from here to Ireland, I have some plastic jewelry I'm putting in.