View Full Version : Human Weapon - Krav Maga Clip!
Brian R. VanCise 08-13-2007, 04:23 PM Here is the Krav Maga teaser clip!
http://www.history.com/minisite.do?content_type=Minisite_Video_Clips&display_order=1&content_type_id=55083&mini_id=54986
Here is the Krav Maga teaser clip!
http://www.history.com/minisite.do?content_type=Minisite_Video_Clips&display_order=1&content_type_id=55083&mini_id=54986
Cool!! When is this episode playing?
terryl965 08-13-2007, 06:20 PM Cool!! When is this episode playing?
It aired last week great episode will replay I believe tonight at 9 pm central.
Brian R. VanCise 08-13-2007, 06:22 PM Terry did you see the Krav Maga episode? I am surprised because I thought it had not aired yet. http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif
terryl965 08-13-2007, 06:28 PM Terry did you see the Krav Maga episode? I am surprised because I thought it had not aired yet. http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif
Yes Brian or at least I thought it was Krav Maga that is the Russian Art right. I could be mistaken, I've seen alot of them already, what was it last week then if not Krav Maga. Sorry:erg: was informed by the power to be it was silat last week my bad. :rofl:
Brian R. VanCise 08-13-2007, 06:32 PM Yes Brian or at least I thought it was Krav Maga that is the Russian Art right. I could be mistaken, I've seen alot of them already, what was it last week then if not Krav Maga. Sorry:erg: was informed by the power to be it was silat last week my bad. :rofl:
What I saw on Saturday was Savate the French martial art. I looked for awhile to find the whole schedule but I was unsuccessful yet I did find when Krav Maga is airing: http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=240178 !
I liked the Savate episode and this Friday it looks to be Judo and Jiujitsu so that should be interesting as well. http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif
terryl965 08-13-2007, 06:49 PM What I saw on Saturday was Savate the French martial art. I looked for awhile to find the whole schedule but I was unsuccessful yet I did find when Krav Maga is airing: http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=240178 !
I liked the Savate episode and this Friday it looks to be Judo and Jiujitsu so that should be interesting as well. http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif
That is what it was I'm a dumbass :nuke: when it come to certain things like remembering what I saw, But I still remember your name Ralph http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif
Obliquity 08-13-2007, 06:56 PM Sweet!
"We'll start teaching you guys because you don't know @#!T!"
Brian R. VanCise 08-13-2007, 07:01 PM That is what it was I'm a dumbass :nuke: when it come to certain things like remembering what I saw, But I still remember your name Ralph http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif
Now that thur is funny!
terryl965 08-13-2007, 07:02 PM Now that thur is funny!
Thank you thank you very much.
Brian R. VanCise 09-01-2007, 02:20 PM The Krav Maga episode was nice and I think that anyone interested in this art will appreciate it. Try and catch it on reruns if you can.
MarkBarlow 09-01-2007, 02:50 PM I enjoyed the episode but was surprised that the hosts kept insisting that some fairly basic techniques and principles were unique to Krav Maga. Many of the drills, especially the knife defenses, were first taught to me in the 70s.
Brian R. VanCise 09-01-2007, 03:06 PM I enjoyed the episode but was surprised that the hosts kept insisting that some fairly basic techniques and principles were unique to Krav Maga. Many of the drills, especially the knife defenses, were first taught to me in the 70s.
Mark on that you are absolutely correct in that many of these techniques are found in other systems. However the hosts just do not know any better based on their limited experience with combative martial systems.
Rich Parsons 09-01-2007, 04:27 PM Mark on that you are absolutely correct in that many of these techniques are found in other systems. However the hosts just do not know any better based on their limited experience with combative martial systems.
I thought this show was good. There were issues or problems though. Some mentioned about the commonalities that seem to be in multiple systems or by multiple cutures that try to address a problem or situation.
My issue was the initial demo. the lead instructor did the "Prison Shanking" stabbing to show how little they knew, and then when it was demonstrated on him they did not give the same level of attack. While I agree that the two hand action and attack/block action can cause a delay and or allow for room, it does not stop the committed person. the person willing to get stabbed back and or get hurt. Now, I have been working this issue for years I have no solution and not been able to find one from anyone else. There are many things that work against some, or work sometimes, but I have not found one technique nor drill that I can get to work consistently for all who try. I do understand that it was covered about the forearm cutting versus the torso cutting, but I still have problems with a mentality that a person can survive this type of knife attack. I know I have been lucky in life. I know that others have survived knife attacks. Maybe the level of skill of the attacker and the commitment has not been there to show. I have worked with groups and in tight formations and I get stabbed or cut. Of course I can take many with me or take many out before someone gets into to me. But that one committed person who willing to die, to get his attack or to allow someone else to get the attack, is very difficult to address. There are skill sets that help. I agree that an approach to thsoe skill sets was discussed and or demonstrated. One on one, I know it would be difficult to stop me from cutting someone. If I was the second attacker to allow the other person for distraction, I find it very difficult that a serious assault did not occur and or more points scored during the final demonstration.
As I stated before I think the show is good overall to get people interested in history of an art or to try a system or art out. But, it is not helping with the presentation. Even if I give the "hosts" the benefit of the doubt, and put the final show in the "editors" hands, and say that key bits of information are on the cutting room floor. I have to wonder, even with this benefit of the doubt if the benefit of the show out weighs the "presentation" issues?
*** Steps off the soap box ***
Thanks
crushing 09-01-2007, 09:52 PM I enjoyed the episode but was surprised that the hosts kept insisting that some fairly basic techniques and principles were unique to Krav Maga. Many of the drills, especially the knife defenses, were first taught to me in the 70s.
Wow! What an incredible martial art!!! To block and strike at the same time?!?!?!?! Can one really do such a thing?!?!?! Who'd a thunk!?!?!?!?! It's gotta be up there with Ninjas walking on water.
LOL!
Ok, I liked it alright and found this episode interesting, but the hosts are getting more annoying with each episode.
MBuzzy 09-01-2007, 10:04 PM Wow! What an incredible martial art!!! To block and strike at the same time?!?!?!?! Can one really do such a thing?!?!?! Who'd a thunk!?!?!?!?! It's gotta be up there with Ninjas walking on water.
I think there was even a comment in there about this being the only art that combines simultaneous blocks and attacks.
14 Kempo 09-01-2007, 10:09 PM I think there was even a comment in there about this being the only art that combines simultaneous blocks and attacks.
Wow! What an incredible martial art!!! To block and strike at the same time?!?!?!?! Can one really do such a thing?!?!?! Who'd a thunk!?!?!?!?! It's gotta be up there with Ninjas walking on water.
LOL ... no kidding! Like this was so amazing! ... foolishness I tell you ... LOL
I'm not talking down Krav Maga, it is a good, combative art. But the researchers of the show should do a bit more investigation before making silly comments such as were on the show.
BTW: I enjoyed watching the show nonetheless
tshadowchaser 09-01-2007, 10:19 PM I give credit tothe producers of the show for trying to show many of the arts and a little of their history, however some of the comments made by the stars should have been left on the cutting floor
MBuzzy 09-01-2007, 11:16 PM What shocks me is how these two "professional fighters" can know so LITTLE about martial arts in general. I mean, spend an hour on this website and you can easily learn a great deal about the styles that they present.....and prevent some of the horrible uninformed comments that they make on a regular basis.
Also....I fail to believe that after a few training sessions, they can stand against masters of the style....that is, without the masters being told or paid to take it VERY easy on them. The Krav Maga challenge was one of the better ones in my opinion.
MarkBarlow 09-02-2007, 01:14 PM Also....I fail to believe that after a few training sessions, they can stand against masters of the style....that is, without the masters being told or paid to take it VERY easy on them. The Krav Maga challenge was one of the better ones in my opinion.
In at least one of the episodes, we're told that over the course of a week, the host will "master" a particular art. I've been training for 31 years and I have yet to "master" anything. I've got a better than average grip on some basics but the idea of mastering even one style is beyond me, let alone, a different style every week.
Maybe I'm getting hung up on phrases and wordage too much but I think that tossing around "master" and "totally unique, found nowhere else" are the initial steps leading to the martial arts in general being so misunderstood.
On the whole, I'm enjoying the show but my wife has learned to leave the den when it comes on. Seems I spend way too much time yelling, "Bull ****!" at the tv screen for her peace of mind.:)
Lynne 09-02-2007, 01:33 PM In at least one of the episodes, we're told that over the course of a week, the host will "master" a particular art. I've been training for 31 years and I have yet to "master" anything. I've got a better than average grip on some basics but the idea of mastering even one style is beyond me, let alone, a different style every week.
Maybe I'm getting hung up on phrases and wordage too much but I think that tossing around "master" and "totally unique, found nowhere else" are the initial steps leading to the martial arts in general being so misunderstood.
On the whole, I'm enjoying the show but my wife has learned to leave the den when it comes on. Seems I spend way too much time yelling, "Bull ****!" at the tv screen for her peace of mind.:)
Remember, now, Bill said he's an experienced fighter...in another episode he said, "I did pretty good." It must be so.
I only saw part of the Krav Maga episode but I recall the trainer telling Bill and Jason they knew nothing about self-defense.
Brian R. VanCise 09-02-2007, 01:52 PM In at least one of the episodes, we're told that over the course of a week, the host will "master" a particular art. I've been training for 31 years and I have yet to "master" anything. I've got a better than average grip on some basics but the idea of mastering even one style is beyond me, let alone, a different style every week.
Maybe I'm getting hung up on phrases and wordage too much but I think that tossing around "master" and "totally unique, found nowhere else" are the initial steps leading to the martial arts in general being so misunderstood.
On the whole, I'm enjoying the show but my wife has learned to leave the den when it comes on. Seems I spend way too much time yelling, "Bull ****!" at the tv screen for her peace of mind.:)
Yes when they tossed out in the preview that they would be mastering judo/jiujitsu that was pretty entertaining. What is really funny is that my wife caught it first and started laughing and then of course I eventually caught on. http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif
terryl965 09-02-2007, 02:00 PM The one thing that I have noticed thoughout the whole series is this, we have a younger guy that has done some MMA and another one that has played Pro football and has done high school wrestling. Let me tell you this in every episode where they have trained to fight one elite fighter in a real fight. All they have done is sparred and at a very lower level in my opinion.
This gives the average Joe the ideal that all these Mc Dojo's thta bragg about beconing fully trained in one year more fuel to the fire and makes quality Dojo's out there look like we do not know what we are doing when we tell people it takes a lifetime of training.
Even at my age I would love to really fight one of these two under some of there rules, I would fair great against them. I know I'm sounding cocky but this show is turning into a joke about what the true meaning of what the Arts stand for.
Just my .02 cents worth.
Lynne 09-02-2007, 03:32 PM The one thing that I have noticed thoughout the whole series is this, we have a younger guy that has done some MMA and another one that has played Pro football and has done high school wrestling. Let me tell you this in every episode where they have trained to fight one elite fighter in a real fight. All they have done is sparred and at a very lower level in my opinion.
This gives the average Joe the ideal that all these Mc Dojo's thta bragg about beconing fully trained in one year more fuel to the fire and makes quality Dojo's out there look like we do not know what we are doing when we tell people it takes a lifetime of training.
Even at my age I would love to really fight one of these two under some of there rules, I would fair great against them. I know I'm sounding cocky but this show is turning into a joke about what the true meaning of what the Arts stand for.
Just my .02 cents worth.
I don't think you're sounding cocky at all. Of course, I think almost everyone here would like to put those two in their places :jediduel:
It is very irritating to see them go bang their shins one day on a palm tree and then all of a sudden they're ready to fight a professional Muay Thai fighter or ready to take on Israeli commandos.
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