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adrenaline
11-05-2002, 04:50 PM
Like yesterday something really strange happened to me, one guy was confronting me and I was listening to what he had to say and he moved slightly to the side and towards me, and I immediately hit him in the neck not hard enought to cause injury but enough for him to say, 'that hurt.' I didn't even think about it once, it just happened. I only realised like half an hour afterwards what had happened. I kind of questioned myself.
Can anyone else relate to this?...
Thanks
GouRonin
11-05-2002, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by adrenaline
Like yesterday something really strange happened to me, one guy was confronting me and I was listening to what he had to say and he moved slightly to the side and towards me, and I immediately hit him in the neck not hard enought to cause injury but enough for him to say, 'that hurt.' I didn't even think about it once, it just happened. I only realised like half an hour afterwards what had happened. I kind of questioned myself.
Can anyone else relate to this?...
Thanks
No.
:flushed:
Angus
11-05-2002, 05:56 PM
Yeah...me neither.
GouRonin
11-05-2002, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Angus
Yeah...me neither.
...I'm glad I wasn't alone...
:iws:
Richard S.
11-05-2002, 06:05 PM
seems to be some pent up aggression, have you ever tried sex?
Elfan
11-05-2002, 06:06 PM
Ya I've done something like that before, feat like crap afterwards. :-(
GouRonin
11-05-2002, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by Elfan
Ya I've done something like that before, felt like crap afterwards. :-(
Wrong hole maybe?
:rolleyes:
fringe_dweller
11-05-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by GouRonin
Wrong hole maybe?
:rolleyes:
:o Seedy my friend....
Still ROFL though
tshadowchaser
11-05-2002, 08:44 PM
Like yesterday something really strange happened to me, one guy was confronting me and I was listening to what he had to say and he moved slightly to the side and towards me, and I immediately hit him in the neck not hard enought to cause injury but enough for him to say, 'that hurt.' I didn't even think about it once, it just happened. I only realised like half an hour afterwards what had happened. I kind of questioned myself.
Been there, done that (a few times) little different senarieo but the same idea. it can be seen as non correct by most people
Its a good way to lose friends or get to the front of a line in a store but then so is passing gas.
Rob Wilson
11-05-2002, 09:36 PM
What the...your hand...it sounds like it went off while you were cleaning it!
7starmantis
11-06-2002, 10:53 AM
Isn't that a symptom of Terrett's Syndrome? :D
I have acute selective Terrett's !! :rofl:
7sm
J-kid
11-07-2002, 01:46 AM
sometimes it feels like i might if someone makes a fast movement at me to counter hit . Or throw..... i tell everyone that no fast movements around me , My body will hit you without my consent.
GouRonin
11-07-2002, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by Judo-kid
sometimes it feels like i might if someone makes a fast movement at me to counter hit . Or throw..... i tell everyone that no fast movements around me , My body will hit you without my consent.
You're one messed up kid. Coming from me, that means something.
:rolleyes:
Phil Elmore
11-07-2002, 04:09 AM
Some days... it's like I realize I'm the world's biggest bad-ass... like my whole body is a taut engine of destruction just waiting to maim and kill anyone who looks at me funny or drops a spoon during lunch. I'm just... so incredibly cool... can anyone else relate to this?
Good grief.
Trollin', trollin', trollin'... (http://www.philelmore.com/profiling/fieldguidetotrolls.htm)
If what you are saying is that some guy was ranting at you and then he made a sudden movement towards you, then I understand that you were concerned that you hit him without thinking about it. It can be an awkward period when your old flight/cower reflex turns into a fight reflex, but don't forget that flinching or turning and running away which may have been your old reflex reactions, are not necessarily any more rational than your new reflexes.
I've jumped in before thinking in highly stressful situations, and in each case I've realised that I did something sensible when I had time to sit back and reflect on it afterwards.
By envisioning scenarios along with sensible responses, I believe you are less likely to do something on reflex that you will later consider stupid.
I though ma training was supposed to cultivate discipline and self control, lol,,,you can`t go round hitting people at random, even if they`re getting in your face like that, walk away,,, and then if they follow you can hit them;)
J-kid
11-07-2002, 11:23 AM
You miss understand, this only happens if i already feel threaten inside and i am in a unsure envoment, I am not saying if you jumped around me i would hit you infact i wouldnt do anything, But when i become worried or am really zoned out its like auto attack or somthing. Its like if you jump at me from around the corner and i am really not expecting it you might get a punch then me yelling what the heck.
Phil Elmore
11-07-2002, 11:53 AM
That "auto attack" mode -- is that done with just the joystick, or do you have to press some of the controller buttons, too?
Master of Blades
11-07-2002, 12:10 PM
Sharp Phil - I dunno why........But you are a very funny guy....
Phil Elmore
11-07-2002, 12:29 PM
:)
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Nightingale
11-07-2002, 03:21 PM
ROTFLMAO, Phil! your humor stuff is great, especially the sign picture.
Phil Elmore
11-07-2002, 03:25 PM
http://philelmore.com/images/odd-1.jpg
This one?
Nightingale
11-07-2002, 03:28 PM
that would be the one.
Master of Blades
11-07-2002, 04:47 PM
LOL..........................LOL.................. ...................LOL...................:D
Thats hysterical
:rofl: :shrug: :asian:
GouRonin
11-07-2002, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Judo-kid
You miss understand, this only happens if i already feel threaten inside and i am in a unsure envoment, I am not saying if you jumped around me i would hit you infact i wouldnt do anything, But when i become worried or am really zoned out its like auto attack or somthing. Its like if you jump at me from around the corner and i am really not expecting it you might get a punch then me yelling what the heck.
I suspect you're one of those secret death ninjas.
:rolleyes:
J-kid
11-08-2002, 01:48 AM
Hehehe funny stuff. I supose its like i replaced flenching a natural deterent to a attack to a attack or shall we say aprohensive attack. Hey its just me and i dont go hitting my friends every time they come up and jump at me . But like a stranger or somthing. i also usally after a nice counter jump back. But like i said i have only hit one or two guys who i know and where masking there faces and jumped at me . other then that i am able to stop my self befor inpact is made. O yeah and now i have to silence GouRonin because he knows to much about the secret Nijia club which only people that belong to squer dancing can hold. O no know you know and i am coming for you. LOOOK BEHIND YOU <WACK. jk:D
GouRonin
11-08-2002, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Judo-kid
Hehehe funny stuff. I supose its like i replaced flenching a natural deterent to a attack to a attack or shall we say aprohensive attack. Hey its just me and i dont go hitting my friends every time they come up and jump at me . But like a stranger or somthing. i also usally after a nice counter jump back. But like i said i have only hit one or two guys who i know and where masking there faces and jumped at me . other then that i am able to stop my self befor inpact is made. O yeah and now i have to silence GouRonin because he knows to much about the secret Nijia club which only people that belong to squer dancing can hold. O no know you know and i am coming for you. LOOOK BEHIND YOU <WACK. jk:D
Actually, by the time I actually figured out what the hell you said in this post you COULD have clobbered me.
Seriously, spend some time going over your post before you post it. That way we can understand what the hell you mean. Otherwise I will have to assume that the school you go to is for retarded Judoka.
RyuShiKan
11-08-2002, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by adrenaline
Like yesterday something really strange happened to me, one guy was confronting me and I was listening to what he had to say and he moved slightly to the side and towards me, and I immediately hit him in the neck not hard enought to cause injury but enough for him to say, 'that hurt.' I didn't even think about it once, it just happened. I only realised like half an hour afterwards what had happened. I kind of questioned myself.
Can anyone else relate to this?...
People that are trained properly can distinguish a REAL threat from an imagined one.
Sounds like you need to adjust your training.
Phil Elmore
11-08-2002, 03:32 AM
"Flenching?"
Flenching is like when you jerk on reflex.
People that are trained properly can distinguish a REAL threat from an imagined one.
Now that`s the truth, simple and plain. Walking around like you on autofire,,,that`s gonna come right back at you!
Whenever Meatloaf is chasing you, for any reason, your career is over. (from Phil Elmores movie reviews)
now, this is also very true,,,:D
adrenaline
11-08-2002, 01:54 PM
The guy who did confront me was asking for my mobile phone and we stepped forward I thought he was going to hit me because I had refused to give me my mobile phone.
You should have hit him sooner and harder then.
You are certainly not a whacko for doing what you did.
Next time tell everybody the full details, and they're less likely to rib you.
7starmantis
11-11-2002, 09:05 AM
Maybe you should have given the full details at the begining, but still if you are saying that someone asked for your mobile phone, you were scared that he was goign to hit you so you hit him first, then you still did the wrong thing. Why not just walk away? If you thought he was going to hit you, then you started the fight and would be responsible if anyone got in trouble for it.
7sm
It's easy to say just walk away, but sometimes it is futile. If the guy is making a sudden move on you then it may be too late to run away. It may be immediately clear you're going to be outrun.
Besides, when you have time to think it's easy to see what you could have done.
Thinking about hitting someone, or hitting them out of anger is wrong, but sometimes you react to aggresion for the better or worse. Learning to understand and control those reactions is an important part of martial arts.
It's important to understand your own morals, and try to make yourself morally pure, but backing down or running away is not necessarily more moral.
It seems from what adrenaline is saying that what he did was not caused by malice and caused no harm. I would say this is a good thing, and that as long as this was the case there is no need to be frightened of your reaction, just try to understand it.
The Taoists teach that you should act without thinking at the time, but always correctly, which involves thinking before hand. It is what I am aiming for, and it is a worthy pursuit.
7starmantis
11-12-2002, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by Bod
It's easy to say just walk away, but sometimes it is futile. If the guy is making a sudden move on you then it may be too late to run away. It may be immediately clear you're going to be outrun.
Besides, when you have time to think it's easy to see what you could have done.
That is a good point, however, what if the guy was only wanting to barrow his phone to make an emergency call, he hits the guy goes off and someone involved in the emergency was injured worse? What if the guy was asking to barrow it, he hits the guy and the guy gets mad, pulls out a gun and bam, settles it? I know these are streching the situation quite a bit, but don't be fooled by thinking it doesn't happen.
I think walking away is the moral right here, now we weren't there so we are only taking an acount from reading, but still, why hit the guy if he has shown no aggression? If he hit him and a fight started, he would have started it still the same.
I hope I haven't offended, just trying to get some discussion going.
7sm
I'm certainly not offended.
We all have tomake our assumptions, and it is not wrong to make suggestions that you see moral.
Besides there are much harder situations to deal with than this.
For instance: When is it correct to get involved in 'someone elses fight'? To what extent? and so forth.
To fight or not to fight, and how much to fight are serious questions for the martial artist. If these questions are not discussed you tend to get a polarisation between the 'get stomped on as oftenas possible' versus the 'use a rocket launcher on everyone who might be thinking of looking at you funny' camps.
Forums are a great place to thrash this question out.
7starmantis
11-12-2002, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by Bod
I'm certainly not offended.
We all have tomake our assumptions, and it is not wrong to make suggestions that you see moral.
Besides there are much harder situations to deal with than this.
For instance: When is it correct to get involved in 'someone elses fight'? To what extent? and so forth.
Man isn't that the truth!! If there were only easy answers to these questions!! I'm going to go ponder now!:D
7sm
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