ninjutsu weapon qwestions

[jubei42]

hello everyone. My name is Jack, I am not new to ninjutsu but l will admit that I don't know everything. I am decent with most ninjutsu weapon and continue to train. I have recently received a set of ninja throwing spikes, And l have no idea exatly how to use them. l know if l just throw them around enogh l will someday get it right. But to save my spike from damage, l would like if someone out there could give me some pointers. I would be very greatfull to who ever could help.

domo

[SFC JeffJ]

Welcome to MT and enjoy!

If you look in the Ninjutsu areas, you'll find we have many people here with loads of experience in BBT who would be happy to give you advice!

Jeff

[Brian R. VanCise]

hello everyone. My name is Jack, I am not new to ninjutsu but l will admit that I don't know everything. I am decent with most ninjutsu weapon and continue to train. I have recently received a set of ninja throwing spikes, And l have no idea exatly how to use them. l know if l just throw them around enogh l will someday get it right. But to save my spike from damage, l would like if someone out there could give me some pointers. I would be very greatfull to who ever could help.

domo

Jack I think it would be best to learn this first hand from your instructor. Throwing things around without training can get pretty tricky at times. (things bounce) Hopefully the spikes you received are close to what it used in Authentic Budo Taijutsu practice as many of the ones that are available to purchase are weight poorly and will not be of much good in learning this skill. Good luck.

[14 Kempo]

Hello Jack, welcome to MT and happy posting!

[Bigshadow]

Welcome to martial talk! Check out the Ninjutsu forum. :)

[The Kidd]

Welcome and have fun!

[exile]

Jack I think it would be best to learn this first hand from your instructor. Throwing things around without training can get pretty tricky at times. (things bounce) Hopefully the spikes you received are close to what it used in Authentic Budo Taijutsu practice as many of the ones that are available to purchase are weight poorly and will not be of much good in learning this skill. Good luck.

Hey Brian, what you say about weight interests me; I train shuriken a lot and have an awfully hard time finding good ones—the weight is often wrong. Do you have a source for really well-made stars? The ones I use are probably fine for their intended purpose (use against an armed attacker in parking garages or other enclosed, typically deserted spaces), but I'd like to find better quality ones—trying to increase my distance from the target gradually to around fifteen feet or so with at least half my throws within a small-radius circle on my target. If the weight's not perfect, it's really hard to get that kind of accuracy... any suggestions? Would very much appreciate a good, reliable source for weapons-grade throwing weapons..

[rutherford]

Ed Green's equipment is the best I've found.

http://www.budoweapons.com/

[MJS]

Mod Note

Thread moved to General Ninjutsu.

Mike Slosek
MT Supermod

[exile]

Ed Green's equipment is the best I've found.

http://www.budoweapons.com/

Thanks for the recommendation and link, rutherford!

[saru1968]

hello everyone. My name is Jack, I am not new to ninjutsu but l will admit that I don't know everything. I am decent with most ninjutsu weapon and continue to train. I have recently received a set of ninja throwing spikes, And l have no idea exatly how to use them. l know if l just throw them around enogh l will someday get it right. But to save my spike from damage, l would like if someone out there could give me some pointers. I would be very greatfull to who ever could help.

domo


Anychance of posting a picture of the spikes so we can see what set you have?

[saru1968]

Ed Green's equipment is the best I've found.

http://www.budoweapons.com/

I can comment on Shuriken especailly the Bo type as I've never ordered them from Mr Green or am i likely too.

But if the attention to detail and customer service and delivery time of nearly a year is anything to guage by i would no recommend him at all.

[exile]

I can comment on Shuriken especailly the Bo type as I've never ordered them from Mr Green or am i likely too.

But if the attention to detail and customer service and delivery time of nearly a year is anything to guage by i would no recommend him at all.

A year????

Hmmmmm.....

[rutherford]

I can comment on Shuriken especailly the Bo type as I've never ordered them from Mr Green or am i likely too.

But if the attention to detail and customer service and delivery time of nearly a year is anything to guage by i would no recommend him at all.

You say you've never ordered them, so where are you getting your information? Did you order something that it took him a year to make and send to you? What was it?


exile, now that we've moved to the Ninjutsu forum, there's a sticky close by for suppliers.

[saru1968]

You say you've never ordered them, so where are you getting your information? Did you order something that it took him a year to make and send to you? What was it?


exile, now that we've moved to the Ninjutsu forum, there's a sticky close by for suppliers.

No, did not order Bo shuriken hence the comment.

But in Feb(1/02/06) of last year i did order 2 x hand made leather tabi and 2 x purple heart bokken and 2 x Purple heart Kodachi.

I even sent him a pair of my indoor tabi for correct sizing.

I was most disapponited with the results as I've heard so many good comments about his work.

The order was originally half mine and half a gift for someone else's birthday in the Summer. I know there was personal issues BUT my patience ran out in September. The communication was terrible. If it was one guy doing it in his spare time and saying 'it will arrive when its finished' rather than being run as a proper business and been given approx delivery dates i would not have been so bothered.

In the end i got my order a few days before Christmas.

The Tabi are too small despite packing them out for a month, the inside clasps on one pair of the tabi are green/blue with rust/discolour. The edges alondside the bottom of one pair of the tabi is not complete. One ofthe stitches retaining the clasps has come undone despite them only being worn around the house in an attempt to loosen them.

The binding on the handle of one kodachi and one Bokken is not glued correctly and is loose. The scabbard still have the price tag stuck to the tube, i'm assuming its some sort of golf tubing.

All in all not good. My only hope is that the wood is good, apparently its IPE as he had ran out of purple heart.

The kicker at the end just before it was due to be shipped was he 'forgot' I'd ordered two pair of tabi!.

I did get so sick of it at one point i asked for a refund but was told as it was custom work it was not possible.

He did put in senban in one of the Tabi, but too little too late.

Maybe my order was one bad order out of thousands. Just my experience yours maybe be better.

[rutherford]

Wow. Thanks for the detail.

My experience was the complete opposite, but it's good to hear from everybody.

[exile]

exile, now that we've moved to the Ninjutsu forum, there's a sticky close by for suppliers.

Cool, I missed that—thx for the pointer!

[jubei42]

well I do not have an instructer. Or i would have done that but I do like the suggetion. all the training in ninjutsu is self trained. and I figured out how to use the weapon on my own. I have had martail arts training but not ninjutsu. or not offical training. so that is why I am asking.

[saru1968]

well I do not have an instructer. Or i would have done that but I do like the suggetion. all the training in ninjutsu is self trained. and I figured out how to use the weapon on my own. I have had martail arts training but not ninjutsu. or not offical training. so that is why I am asking.


Are you saying you've already 'figured out' how to use them?

can you give us a link to a picture of the ones you have?

thanks

[rutherford]

Well, I don't want to spoil your fun but you should really seek out an instructor if you want to actually learn anything.

But, for your entertainment you might check out Hatsumi's DVD on Hidden Weapons & Shuriken Techniques.

Danny Fletcher also has a set of shurikenjutsu DVDs which you can sometimes find for sale on ebay.

There are also DVDs for sale from arts that have no connection to ninjutsu.

[Brian R. VanCise]

Ed Green's equipment is the best I've found.

http://www.budoweapons.com/

Exile I use Ed Greens tools as well. Definately one of the best out there.http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[jubei42]

thank you for your help

Domo

[exile]

Exile I use Ed Greens tools as well. Definately one of the best out there.http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

OK, that sounds good—thanks for the pointer, guys. I'll give them a try!
:asian:

[Brian R. VanCise]

OK, that sounds good—thanks for the pointer, guys. I'll give them a try!
:asian:

His work is of very, very good quality. It may take a little longer to get because it is custom work after all.

[exile]

His work is of very, very good quality. It may take a little longer to get because it is custom work after all.

I'll gladly pay more, and wait longer, for something really good. As I've often heard, it's not a bargain if it isn't any good! These days, it's often hard to get good quality products almost regardless of what you're willing to pay for them, so it's good to hear that someone is doing careful, craftsmanlike work in this area. There is very little that's more frustrating than a star which, no matter how accurately and technically correctly you throw it, still bounces off the target because it just doesn't have the mass (relative to size/shape) to penetrate the board!

Am going to place an order with him in the next day or so and will let you know how it plays out... and thanks again!

[Don Roley]

well I do not have an instructer. Or i would have done that but I do like the suggetion. all the training in ninjutsu is self trained. and I figured out how to use the weapon on my own. I have had martail arts training but not ninjutsu. or not offical training. so that is why I am asking.

You just can't be serious.

Let me put it to you bluntly. You play at being a ninja. You have no teacher, and thus you are no more privelaged to the title of a a ninjutsu practicioner than I am to the title as a medical student. (Oh yeah, I just bought a book on anatomy last week- more than you I would think.)

Get some real training, shelve the attitude that you can teach yourself and stop expecting people to help you if you won't do even that.

[Cirdan]

My name is Jack, I am not new to ninjutsu but l will admit that I don't know everything. I am decent with most ninjutsu weapon and continue to train. I have recently received a set of ninja throwing spikes, And l have no idea exatly how to use them. l know if l just throw them around enogh l will someday get it right.

Jack.. you remind me of another self-trained gentleman who spent some time on MT a while ago. He too liked to pick up weapons he didn`t know how to use and "bang them about". The name he went by was Paulgalactic and I find your style of writing very similar. Are you two the same person?

[Jonathan Randall]

Self-delete.

[Don Roley]

Self-delete.

Is that kind of like commiting suicide with a frisbee? :wink1:

[Teppan]

well I do not have an instructer. Or i would have done that but I do like the suggetion. all the training in ninjutsu is self trained. and I figured out how to use the weapon on my own. I have had martail arts training but not ninjutsu. or not offical training. so that is why I am asking.


Same thing happen to me until i found an instructor. A video or a book teaches very simple things. It explains shuriken in flyght and many more. Books and videos are somewhat limited in instruction. I did self training for 4 years from books and videos and to tell you the truth you just learn basic basics. An instructor always tells you what you are doing wrong when you are doing it wrong on the spot. You don't need months or years to "figure it out". You might read about "the defender grabs the attacker's arm an twists...ect." An instructor teaches " in the kihon happo when train in the uragyaku, muso-dori, you turn..." In books and videos all is superficiall. Find an instructor. First learn to defend against thrown shuriken, then shuriken grappling and finally learn to throw the shuriken. Remember that once you throw a weapon/tool you stay defenceless. Train more on taijutsu. Try using the therm tools over the therm weapons. On shuriken training you could train with throwing stones, the weight is not so important in that you train with shurikens to use any improvise objects you might use in a real scenario. You can not always carry shurikens with you at all times. Thanks...