Fight Club

[adrenaline]

I have this thing at my school called 'Fight Club'. its basically just barekunckle fighting until one of the fighters says he's had enough. I watch it when there is a fight as a way to see how other guys fight in my school but the problem is that everyone wants me to fight because I do Muay Thai and they know that. I've never said that I could fight but it seems that a lot of people want me to fight the ''champ'' of this fight club. It may seem a little immature about considering fighting in the bareknuckle fight but I don't know how to get everyone to shut their mouths as school or to get out of everyone forcing me to fight.

Thanks.

[RyuShiKan]

Do want you want to do and don't let them force you to do anything you don't want to.

[tarabos]

that should probably be reported to some type of authority actually before one of those kids gets hurt bad.

[7starmantis]

Originally posted by tarabos

that should probably be reported to some type of authority actually before one of those kids gets hurt bad.

Yeah, think if you fought and the guy fell over something, broke his arm, got gangreen in it and had to have it amputated. OK, I know, I'm flying to extremes, but what if someone does get seriously hurt, I really don't want that on my conscience. Remeber the saying, " A hero lives but a few moments, a master lives to teach his art". Ancient Chinese secret saying!!
OK it was on a JAckie Chan movie, but it still makes sense.
Just do what you want, don't let anyone tell you or pressure you to do anything in the world. Trust me, you will be happy later in life if you do what YOU want.

7sm

[Bod]

Goodness me, I'd itch to be such a contest, though I'd probably lose.

But the thought of expulsion from school/university/work would probably rule out actually participating.

I wouldn't worry about hurting the other guy since he's the champ and probably isn't worried either.

He might beat you though. And hard.

Then your mates will pressure you into a rematch.

If you win however you are totally f***ed as far as staying out of fights in the future is concerned.

[ace]

If not Tell them Your
Traing for the big Pay day

If theyrealy want U to Fight
U should get paid.

[Skarbromantis]

Tell them to fu(k off :D

[7starmantis]

Originally posted by ace

If not Tell them Your
Traing for the big Pay day

If theyrealy want U to Fight
U should get paid.

Is there no other reason to study MA than for fame or money?

7sm

[tarabos]

guys...i'm no mod...but this really has a lot of potential to turn into another ridiculous flamewar...just keep that in mind, that seems to be the direction it's turning in to me.

i wasn't kidding when i said one of these kids could get seriously hurt. yeah, pro fighters fight bareknuckle and no holds barred...what have you, but they also have plenty of people ready to give them medical attention there in case they need it. if you really wanted a piece of the bare knuckle champ there you should just tell him to come down to your gym and take you on there.

[ace]

But he's talkin about a Fight
So if he's gonna Fight Y not get Paid.

They Want Him cause he does M.A.
So if they want him Bad enough he
Should Get Paid.

Thats The Bootom line Cause _______________
U fill in the Blanks.

[Master of Blades]

Ace is there a reason you talk like your trying to resemble some sort of prose? Im interested......:asian:

[tarabos]

...i don't know about these kids...but i wasn't exactly loaded when i was in high school. and i sure as heck didn't have the money to pay someone to fight me. besides, if he did ask them for money they'd most likely laugh in his face due to the ridiculousness of the request.

that said...it's better off to not bother with stuff like this because even if it isn't you that gets hurt and you're just standing there watching, it's likely you will get into some trouble for it if there's a serious injury.

remember, this stuff probably isn't taking place on mats or anything like that. if the back of someone's head hits the floor hard enough they can wind up dying. it's serious stuff that i think you guys are taking a bit lightly.

[ace]

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[Kenpo Wolf]

Originally posted by ace

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It's another word for poetry, if I recall correctly. I think he's talking about the funny way you post

Bck on topic, I think those so called fight clubs are a joke and are a major lawsuit waiting to happen. We had something like that when I was in school but it was'nt as violent. A bunch of us use to go out to the football field after school and sometimes at lunch and just wrestle. It wasn'nt violent, just fun, but sometimes it did get out of hand. One of my favorite games , we called it the Pack Attack, is when four or five people and sometimes more ganged up on one person and we timed it to see how long it took them take him down. I had the record of my group, with 21 minutes, all through my sophmore to senior year.

[adrenaline]

The one I'm referring to, is quite violent, I means theres all ways a bloody nose or black eyes otherwise if it was just wrestling I wouldn't be too concerned about it but because it's quite serious I kind of worry about it.

[bob919]

i would fight i'm not saying you should infact you shouldn't, i shouldn't but i would anyway if you deicide to, than start at the bottom dont fight the top guy first

[Cthulhu]

I'm sorry, but every single one of those kids in that 'fight club' is a moron.

And their parents are morons.

One of these days, one or more of those kids will get seriously hurt, and the parents will try to put the blame on somebody or something else than their poor supervision.

Cthulhu

[sammy3170]

Originally posted by Cthulhu

I'm sorry, but every single one of those kids in that 'fight club' is a moron.

And their parents are morons.

One of these days, one or more of those kids will get seriously hurt, and the parents will try to put the blame on somebody or something else than their poor supervision.

Cthulhu

Damn straight. And you're a moron adrenaline if you get involved.

Cheers
Sammy

[Master of Blades]

If it was just sparring with freinds who also do MA or some kind of fighting for fun then I wouldnt mind. But cuz there doing it to be the best in front of a group of people who think the best is the one who comes out with the least bruises. I wouldnt fight even if they asked me too and I had a good chance of winning. I guess its just a new way to win freinds....:shrug:

[Shinzu]

i would steer away from a thing like this. seems that you would end up in more trouble than it's worth. what if your MT instructor found out about this. you don't want to risk getting kicked from your training do you? i know if one of my students was caught doing this, i would not permit them to attend my classes anymore. it is a disgrace to the arts.

[Master of Blades]

Originally posted by Shinzu

It is a disgrace to the arts.

Well said......

[Jas]

In my area about 2 years ago there where a bunch of kids that did this too, until a kid got punched in the head and died, now some of the other kids are in prison.

[MantisMan]

I would ask these questions of yourself:

1. Why do THEY want you to fight?

- are they trying to gauge their own levels? No.
- do they want to see a "branded" fighter fail? Yep.
- are they trying to improve themselves by learning from you? Don't think so.

2. Why do YOU want to fight?

- do you think you'll be a better fighter if you slay the top bod? Not likely.
- are you afraid of losing your credibility? Where does that "credibility" come from? Have you earned it by fighting? Or do they just think you ought to be good because you are taught?
- what would you gain from winning? People will avoid you, or they'll challenge you more. Neither sounds like a good result.

You may have answers that are different to mine. If so, you're ready to fight, but not for the right reasons, I think.

[rmcrobertson]

Beyond the fact that I absolutely agree with the folks who have already noted that these idiots are morons, I'd argue you'll learn a lot more about the martial arts by avoiding this nonsense than you'll learn by participating in it.

By the way, how'd they learn you do muy thai? Last time I told somebody I didn't know, he tried to hit me with a piece of vacuum cleaner tubing just to prove that he could...

Avoid these yahoos at almost all costs.

[Master of Blades]

Originally posted by Kenpo Wolf
It's another word for poetry, if I recall correctly. I think he's talking about the funny way you post



Yup, sorry forgot bout that......but that was what I was asking! :asian:

[Cruentus]

You do Muay Thai, correct?

When I was in middle school and high school, I used to kickbox, box, and spar a lot. My passion was Filipino/combative arts, but the school I was affiliated with was a Kickboxing school. The owner was a World Champ back in the late 70's.

Anyways, there was no "fight club," but there were a fair amount of kids who wanted to fight me because I was in martial arts. So, I would tell them that although I liked to study martial arts, I didn't like violence. I would rather be friends with everyone instead of fighting. I would also say that "Hey, really...I don't think I'm that tough." However, I would also say that if anyone really wants to fight me that bad, then here is where my martial arts school is at. We can sign waivers, put the gloves on, set the rules any way you'd like, and go at it. I'll have my instructor referee so it doesn't get out of hand. Then afterwords, we can still be friends.

I only had a couple of people show up, but it was to first check the school out. When they saw me teaching other people who were adults, and when they saw me in the ring, they changed their minds about fighting me. From 10th grade on I never had any problems. People knew I was nice and that I would never fight unless I had to. They also knew not to challange me. This due to my demeener, primarily. Secondarily, it was also because a few of the drug dealer seniors tried to jump me in school when I was in the 9th grade. These "tough guys" ended up on the floor in tears; and luckily the kids parents where smart enough to drop the law suit. People also knew not to push me to far after that.

The moral is....don't ever go to someone elses "turf" for a fight (I'm excluding competition, and talking about "real fighting"). You will be at the mercy of their rules, their crowd, and you will have to play their game. You will be putting yourself in a situation of which you will have no control over, meaning that no matter how tough you are, the odds will be extremely against you. If something happends spontaniously, handle it accordingly, and remember that self defense isn't just "beating" someone in a fight, but that it is doing anything you can to get out of the situation (whether that means running, getting the authorities, etc.). You don't want to foolishly endanger your life. And third, if they are instisting on fighting you, make them do it on your terms. If you are at a Muay Thai school and currently training for the ring, then this shouldn't be a problem.

Good luck, and be wiser them your peers.

:ultracool

[sweeper]

I don't know how well you know these people, if this is just like sparring with freinds than it probably isn't all that bad.. but if you don't know them that well I wouldn't get involved just because some people have a few screws loose and in a bare knuckle fight (deppending on the rules) there is alot of potential for some serious injury..

It sounds like you don't want to fight, if you don't want to fight dont. If you are curious do it in a safe environment, take a couple good freinds that are like minded and have some fun. But unless it's part of a school or you realy trust the people I don't think that would be the smartest thiing to do.

Like was said, if someone wants to fight you bring them to your school (or even another school) and fight them in a controlled environment. Don't go to them.

[MartialArtist]

I remember fight clubs at school. They were usually just a place where people will fight randomly, get angry, dip, drink, and smoke. Not a pleasant place to be.

[Jill666]

Hey, I liked the movie too. But in reality, this is assault & battery with potential for manslaughter.

I have a friend who likes to say "all those zen sayings are just a fancy way of telling us not to be dicks". I agree. Don't be a dick.

[Cruentus]

Originally posted by Jill666
I have a friend who likes to say "all those zen sayings are just a fancy way of telling us not to be dicks". I agree. Don't be a dick.

lol, I like that....:rofl:

[muayThaiPerson]

I have the same thing at my school!!! except i keep a low profile. how long ahave u been training?

I suggest that you fight to get them to shut up. But make sure you can.

some strategies: go low and hit their stomach. dont kick unless its followed by a push kick or upper body move. Clinch and throw them down ( ive tried this, it works, but youll have to take some hits).