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BDuncan111
12-10-2006, 07:47 PM
What do you consider is the most dangerous (whatever your definition of that is) fighting style (either within or outside of the one you practice) compared to others and please say why.

bydand
12-10-2006, 08:09 PM
This may sound like a flippant answer, but it isn't meant that way at all.

The most dangerous fighting style is the one being used against you. I fully belive that it doesn't matter what style somebody knows, it is the simple fact that they are going to be using whatever they know against you. I know some very high ranked people in several different styles (including the one I train in) that would be a laughable adversary, the other side of that coin is that I know some people with no formal training or very low ranking in several arts (including mine) that I wouldn't want any part of in a fight. It comes down to the intent and desire of your adversary, not the fighting style they train in.

Kacey
12-10-2006, 08:12 PM
This may sound like a flippant answer, but it isn't meant that way at all.

The most dangerous fighting style is the one being used against you. I fully belive that it doesn't matter what style somebody knows, it is the simple fact that they are going to be using whatever they know against you. I know some very high ranked people in several different styles (including the one I train in) that would be a laughable adversary, the other side of that coin is that I know some people with no formal training or very low ranking in several arts (including mine) that I wouldn't want any part of in a fight. It comes down to the intent and desire of your adversary, not the fighting style they train in.

The bolded part of bydand's response is the key to this issue, I think; since he said it so well, I'm not going to add anything here but my agreement.

elder999
12-10-2006, 08:56 PM
Glock Fu....or perhaps Uzi Ryu.:lol:

Because guns don't kill people, sucking chest wounds and head shots kill people.

elder999
12-10-2006, 09:00 PM
Or perhaps, there once was something more deadly, the ancient Chinese martial art of Kabumei (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vMPz7ZNzSo)

exile
12-10-2006, 09:22 PM
Or perhaps, there once was something more deadly, the ancient Chinese martial art of Kabumei (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vMPz7ZNzSo)

:boing2: :lfao: :boing2:

Bigshadow
12-10-2006, 10:56 PM
Cat fighting! :roflmao:

Kreth
12-10-2006, 11:18 PM
All of the styles listed above pale when compared to Sinanju. :rolleyes:



:uhyeah:

Brian King
12-10-2006, 11:44 PM
Well said bydand/Kacey!!

Brian

exile
12-10-2006, 11:45 PM
All of the styles listed above pale when compared to Sinanju. :rolleyes:
:uhyeah:

True---any martial art that allows you to hang for an hour from the top of the Statue of Liberty has got to trump all the others...:lol:

arnisador
12-10-2006, 11:46 PM
All of the styles listed above pale when compared to Sinanju.

Yeah, but who has that much gold?

The serious answer is, it depends on far too many things, including your strengths and the type of threat you'll face.

matt.m
12-10-2006, 11:56 PM
It is all in what you are faced with. There are too many scenerios you could possibly be faced with. This is one of those questions I will answer with, "It doesn't matter the style, what matters is the instructor and your dedication to learning."

exile
12-11-2006, 12:00 AM
It is all in what you are faced with. There are too many scenerios you could possibly be faced with. This is one of those questions I will answer with, "It doesn't matter the style, what matters is the instructor and your dedication to learning."

Yup, that's it. It's another case of conflating systems with fighters. Systems don't fight each other; fighters fight each other. And in the same way, systems aren't dangerous, fighters---and more generally, people---are dangerous (or aren't).

Cirdan
12-11-2006, 02:44 AM
The question is too broad to make sense. If you really want an awnser I`ll say a trained sniper would be the most dangerous to my life. In other words, the art of the assassin.

Grenadier
12-11-2006, 08:47 AM
Going back to the original topic...

Anyone can be very dangerous, regardless of fighting style, or even lack thereof. Yes, even the undisciplined brawler who starts flinging a load of haymaker punches in your general direction.

There have been well-trained fighters who have gotten sucker punched. There are also well-trained fighters who panicked when they were fighting against the untrained.

There's an old saying, that professional soldiers are predictable, but the world is full of amateurs...

Tez3
12-11-2006, 09:03 AM
There seems to be an eternal quest for the 'ONE' style that beats everything and everyone despite everything. As we know there isn't one so questions like this are wishful thinking really. Bydand and Kacey are right!

SFC JeffJ
12-11-2006, 09:20 AM
Fudebakudo (http://www.fudebakudo.com/)

But seriously, I agree with it's not the style, it's the person.

Jeff

Shotgun Buddha
12-11-2006, 09:47 AM
Seeing as danger is entirely based on circumstances, you can't just point at one style and say its the most dangerous, much like its impossible to officially declare one weapon the most effective.
Effectiveness is dictated by circumstances.
So the most dangerous style would be the most adaptable one, but being that adaptable renders the concept of a "style" invalid, since styles are shaped according to specific aims and objectives.

zDom
12-11-2006, 08:35 PM
All of the styles listed above pale when compared to Sinanju. :rolleyes:



:uhyeah:

:D

AceHBK
12-11-2006, 09:24 PM
I would say the most dangerous style is the one a person has halfway trained in and think they really know what they are doing.
In the end they can end up hurting themselves more than anyone else.

terryl965
12-11-2006, 09:28 PM
It is not the style but the fighter and please do not tell me it is different. People are as good as they train no matter what style. And AceHBK glad to see you around, We have an adult class MWF at 8pm an TT at 8:30 pm

cali_tkdbruin
12-11-2006, 09:30 PM
What do you consider is the most dangerous (whatever your definition of that is) fighting style...

IMHO, I agree with those who say it's not the fighting style itself, but the actual fighter who is the primary factor in determing what's most dangerous.

stabpunch
12-12-2006, 11:55 PM
James Brown once said 'i don't know karate but i know carazee(crazy)'.

My opinion is inline with many of the other posts that there isn't a 'most dangerous' style. Chin na is very brutal and western boxing can inflict much damage also. The point i guess i'm trying to make that the level of aggression with which a technique(or lack of technique) is carried out determines the effectiveness.

You can know a technique that can break someones neck.
Are you carazee enough to use it?

searcher
12-13-2006, 09:23 AM
Even the individual will have their time and place. For instance, take Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock, they were both appearing to be unbeatable at the early days of the UFC and now they are having a tough go of it. As with every style or fighter, you will have your time and day, but it can go at any time.

Brian R. VanCise
12-13-2006, 10:36 AM
It all comes down to the individual in that moment in time. Train alot and your training will hopefully protect you in the moment but it is no guarantee.

terryl965
12-13-2006, 10:39 AM
It all comes down to the individual in that moment in time. Train alot and your training will hopefully protect you in the moment but it is no guarantee.


great words of wisdom from a Dark Lord

still learning
12-13-2006, 09:39 PM
Hello, Lots of styles/systems teach killing methods. Most people who reach a level of a Black belt knows how to Kill or Maine a person.

But within those styles and systems...the persons who have the "Killer instinct" should be consider the most dangerous fighter!

Killer instincts (some where born with it)....have NO fear for themselves and will always fight back! No matter how big or how many people they are facing. You can hit them 10 times and they will still get up and fight back.....

They take NO bull from anyone....you could say they are fearless (yes they do fear inside..but will not show it)!

Most of us have friends that are like that...in a fight they will go for the KILL! ....just my thoughts on this........Aloha (best to have them on your side!)

Rich Parsons
12-13-2006, 11:15 PM
What do you consider is the most dangerous (whatever your definition of that is) fighting style (either within or outside of the one you practice) compared to others and please say why.


Seriously I am not sure. I have two and most will think I am being silly, but I am not.

One is Blind Faith in something like a religion or cause, accepting something for the absolute and then going after thsoe who are different or believe differently.

The other is the search for more knowledge, (* Which I support in full force, and think is important *), yet with the desire for more, new and better ways to destroy each other are devised and or come into play every day, inclduing things that destroy the environment to chemicals in food that destroy or bodies, to actual weapons of mass distruction.

Blind Faith in something like a religion or a cause with absolutes by it self is not that dangerous yet if you combine it with the things developed by those searching for more knowledge, it becomes very serious very quickly. So with out those willing to go after others the knowledge is not dangerous. And with that knowledge, there are limitations to the existing technology.

So I am leaning one way, and that way insults lots of people, in lots of cultures on this planet. It is not PC, it is not in the NOW, or the Vogue, but it does bring to mind the old cartoons of US vs THEM.

cali_tkdbruin
12-14-2006, 01:57 AM
Even the individual will have their time and place. For instance, take Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock, they were both appearing to be unbeatable at the early days of the UFC and now they are having a tough go of it. As with every style or fighter, you will have your time and day, but it can go at any time.

Yeah, we have to remember that these fighters are aging, as all fighters do. Things are bound to get tougher trying to stay on top as you age. In their prime they did appear invincible, but as the saying goes, every dog has their day. Nobody stays on top forever, just ask Mohammed Ali, "the GREATEST".

I still think the practitioner and their heart and desire outweigh a particular MA style because IMHO there really isn't one perfect, best Martial Art. Each has its benefits and its drawbacks.

searcher
12-14-2006, 09:28 AM
Yeah, but if age is the deciding factor in this I can bring up Maurice Smith. If I remember correctly he was 39 when he did his first MMA/NHB fight and then went on to tear up a bunch of guys. Royce was 28 when he fought the first UFC so he is around the same age. They may be aging, but I am not so sure that it is why they are not winning as much today.

Andy Moynihan
12-14-2006, 09:28 PM
Any style/tool will do, if YOU will do.

Slihn
12-14-2006, 10:13 PM
Your mind is the most dangerous weapon.

CuongNhuka
12-15-2006, 05:32 PM
martial arts without a philosophy is evil. - Jhoon Rhee

huntly_kickboxing
12-16-2006, 05:54 PM
Vale tudo, anything goes is the translation. headbutting, groin strikes in cages, in rings no gloves its HARDCORE.