Turning Kick

[sparky]

Is TKD the only Martial Art to use the turning kick?

[Marginal]

To call it a turning kick, probably. Quite a few have a roundhouse/round kick though.

[ace]

Mauy Thai has the hardest Round Kicks.

Most system's ive seen in stand up fighting Use
This kick.

But Thai's are the best at it.
:wavey:

[Nightingale]

um...I think kenpo calls this a roundhouse kick.

[Angus]

Depending on the art, the turn kick can mean two things. Tae Kwon Do's turn kick is essentially a spinning roundhouse (where the roundhouse is thrown AFTER the spin), only the spin has a step. It's more than a simple roundhouse.

From my experience, what other arts call a turn kick is TKD's back round kick, which is basically a spinning hook kick without the hooking of the lower leg (though it is thrown slightly differently, it's at least similiar).

TKD and arts based off of TKD are the only one's I've seen with that kind of turn kick.

[fissure]

Is TKD the only Martial Art to use the turning kick?
It's impossible to know what tech. you are talking about. There are half a dozen movements that could come under this name depending on the MA/style/school.However, in general most striking arts use variations of the same tech. to one degree or another.

[TLH3rdDan]

ok turning kick is and extremely vague description... by turning do you mean a simple 180 degree pivot or a full 360 degree spin... second... kick.... do you mean a back thrust, a side, a hook, or a crescent... or even a roundhouse kick as stated in the previous posts??????

[Shinzu]

TSD uses a variety of kicks from roundhouse to back spinning kicks. which are you referring to?

[Angus]

The turn kick I've seen in all the TKD schools is a 360 degree spin + roundhouse.

[Damian Mavis]

Whoa, 360? In ITF TKD that would be called a 360 turning kick.

Ya guys, we got to remember that not only do different arts have different names for like EVERY single kick but so do individual schools within arts.

Damian Mavis
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[Angus]

There isn't a single ITF school around here that I've seen. I don't even bother with the ATA, so I'm mostly talking about the WTF.

It's usually executed after a roundhouse or something, so I suppose you could break it down into 2 180 degree steps. Back leg steps in front, rear leg comes up and around and the leg that originally stepped kicks. Ie, if you began in left lead, and just did the turn kick, the right leg would kick. If you began in left lead and did a rear leg roundhouse and landed in front for the first step of the turn kick, then again the right leg would kick. Hard to describe, easier to demonstrate. It's not 360 in one motion like a jumping kick, it's two steps of 180 degrees. Sorry for the confusion!

[Damian Mavis]

Ya I know exactly what you mean, we just call a technique by how much of a spin is involved before the kick makes contact whether it's jumping or stepping. So if you are stepping 360 degrees before the kick hits then we call it a 360 round kick or turning kick or what ever kick.

Damian Mavis
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[sparky]

Sorry for being so vague

The TKD turning kick is a modified round house kick - no spinning involved. Very effective kick - as it changes direction while in motion.

[karatekid1975]

A turning kick to me is a roundhouse kick. I came from TSD, which called it a roundhouse (round kick for short). I do WTF TKD now, and they call it a turning kick, but it's the same thing as a roundhouse (in my school anyways).

[Angus]

Originally posted by sparky

Sorry for being so vague

The TKD turning kick is a modified round house kick - no spinning involved. Very effective kick - as it changes direction while in motion.


...:confused:

[Damian Mavis]

Ya me too haha.

???

Damian Mavis
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[fissure]

The TKD turning kick is a modified round house kick
Modified? How so?

Very effective kick - as it changes direction while in motion.
Changes direction in what way?
A TKD round kick is the same as a Karate round kick, maybe the hips get extended more - but still the same kick. Are you talking about a kick often refereed to as an "anvil"? This is round house like, with a directional change. You need to get very specific when trying to get visuals across in text.

[TkdWarrior]

TKD turning kick is same as round house kick from back leg.
it's almost basic kick in every art... MT guys try to generate power from the distance they cover... In TKD it is tried to the use the distance + the hip rotation of kick to maximise it's power... Hip rotation also gives u good ranges and i hav seen this kind of kick in TSD too...
-TkdWarrior-

[Damian Mavis]

For the love of god guys, stop that! "Turning kick is....Turning kick is... Turning kick is..." NO it's not haha. Try to remember that every art and every school within that art may call a completely different kick by the same name. Stop talking about the kick like you guys are speaking for every group within that art , as an example TKD. When I was learning TKD, turning kick was the name we used for a kick that was a roundkick (back leg comes up knee bent, release kick coming from the side towards the ribs and hit with the top of the foot) that used the ball of the foot as the striking weapon instead of the top of the foot. Now that I'm teaching in ITF style, turning kick is the name they use for roundkick. Do I even dare to assume that ALL ITF TKD schools call roundkick turning kick or anything like that? No. Not trying to give you guys a hard time or anything but it seems like some of you are talking in absolutes and you should be aware that your realm of knowledge isnt the be all and end all of terminology.

Damian Mavis
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[sparky]

Like I said before sorry for being so vague but I didn't want to miss lead anybody with my description.
The turning kick that I am talking about starts out as a front kick - that is, the knee comes straight up towards the face, heel directly below the knee
As the kick progresses you rotate your hips piviot your body and finish as a round house kick with the leg horizontal and the foot coming in from the side.

[Damian Mavis]

Back to your original question, no TKD is not the only art to use that kick.

Damian Mavis
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[bob919]

the TKd turning kick is weak kick geared toward point scoring it is exceoptionally fast but no hip or body is put into it its only power comes from the knee as i said weak but good for point scoring

[Damian Mavis]

No the TKD turning kick is not like that at all....did you even read this thread? In the TKD I learn it's not a soft point kick, you turn you hip and shoulder fully into the kick and try to tear through your opponent. My point was and still is different schools/affiliations and groups use similar terms to describe completely different kicks, so don't presume to tell people what it is when that is just one style/schools/affiliations interpretation.

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD

[karatekid1975]

Damian, I learned the turning/roundhouse kick just like you (in TSD) have, but I have also realized that most people in my TKD school do it just like Sparky described (very wimpy no power kick). It is geared toward getting points, not being affective. I still do the tradititional roundhouse, eventhough my TKD school does it the "wimpy" way. To each his own, I guess.

But I do agree that any technique can be called the same thing in different dojangs but be performed differently. I have seen it LOL.

[Shinzu]

yes a turning / roundhouse kick can be very powerful. i had the bruises to prove it...LOL

[Marginal]

Originally posted by karatekid1975

Damian, I learned the turning/roundhouse kick just like you (in TSD) have, but I have also realized that most people in my TKD school do it just like Sparky described (very wimpy no power kick). It is geared toward getting points, not being affective. The kick can be wimpy. Doesn't mean that it is by definition though.

[DWright]

I may be out of my league here, because I'm not a full time student of tkd, but the school I am goining to is wtf, and that kick...

"The turning kick that I am talking about starts out as a front kick - that is, the knee comes straight up towards the face, heel directly below the knee
As the kick progresses you rotate your hips piviot your body and finish as a round house kick with the leg horizontal and the foot coming in from the side."

sounds like a sparring fake. Drawing the opponent into moving/defending against the front snap, and nailing him with the roundhouse. As previously mentioned its great for point sparring.

[Damian Mavis]

In my federation if you are doing turning kick (or whatever your group calls it) any other way other than fully turning into it with the shoulder and hip for maximum power than it is called bad or sloppy technique.

Damian Mavis
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[Roland]

You then had the option of doing the front kick, a roundhouse, or even a side kick!

You got to have enought commitment in the initial front kick to make it look real though.
Great for sparring.

[Damian Mavis]

I got a trick for you..... one of my moves is to pause and stare intently at my opponents crotch.... then I start to throw a front snap to his ding dong only to whip it up at the last second to a roundhouse to the face. People almost always jump back withdrawing their crotch but exposing their chin. Remember! Staring at the crotch is key!

Damian Mavis
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[kenposcum]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Damian Mavis

[ stare intently at my opponents crotch.... ! Staring at the crotch is key!

Always. Mwa ha ha.

Yeah, the kick finally described (what I would call a wheel kick) can be wimptastic if there isn't enough body thrown behind it. Then, yes, it's a flippy-dippy leg kick.
But if effort is made to follow through with the body (PIVOTING into the kick) then it can hurt/damage, especially if it's accurate.

:asian:

[bob919]

the turning kick is the one where the leg chambers like a frontkick thenflicking the foot out on the horizontal plane right? if so then it is weak cause it is made to be fast/deceptive for point scoring

if you mean when someone lifts their leg at theside and swings their leg on the horozontal axisto the target this is a roundhouse kick (at least thats what i call it,lets not get into a name debate) well this one s powerfulbut also slower so less effective for point scoring but soo much better for full contact; aim one to the outside of the thigh 2-4 inches above the knee you will know what i mean