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shifu
10-24-2006, 08:19 PM
Kyosho (sic) Seminar with Kyoshi Roy Osborne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8u0YclB-XQ
Loaded Luke
10-24-2006, 08:25 PM
lol! Not much.
Kacey
10-24-2006, 08:32 PM
I'm not impressed by people who knock out their partner while demonstrating, and I'm not impressed by partners who take pratfalls - so either, I'm not particularly impressed. Anyone can knock someone out, and anyone can take a dive... it's people who can do full-speed, full-power techniques, and not damage their partner, who impress me.
I'm not impressed by people who knock out their partner while demonstrating, and I'm not impressed by partners who take pratfalls - so either, I'm not particularly impressed. Anyone can knock someone out, and anyone can take a dive... it's people who can do full-speed, full-power techniques, and not damage their partner, who impress me.
Ya beat me to it Kacey....
Tames D
10-24-2006, 08:58 PM
lol! Not much.
Totally agree.
Cthulhu
10-24-2006, 09:07 PM
That was utterly craptacular.
F for technique. B- for acting.
Cthulhu
terryl965
10-24-2006, 09:14 PM
I'm not impressed by people who knock out their partner while demonstrating, and I'm not impressed by partners who take pratfalls - so either, I'm not particularly impressed. Anyone can knock someone out, and anyone can take a dive... it's people who can do full-speed, full-power techniques, and not damage their partner, who impress me.
I agree totally
Xue Sheng
10-24-2006, 09:19 PM
I'm not impressed by people who knock out their partner while demonstrating, and I'm not impressed by partners who take pratfalls - so either, I'm not particularly impressed. Anyone can knock someone out, and anyone can take a dive... it's people who can do full-speed, full-power techniques, and not damage their partner, who impress me.
I agree, and I’m impressed by the fact that the guy in black didn’t get tired of it and beat the living daylights out of him.
Kacey
10-24-2006, 09:36 PM
I agree, and I’m impressed by the fact that the guy in black didn’t get tired of it and beat the living daylights out of him.
Indeed... although without knowing their relative positions/ranks it's hard to say just why he didn't do that.
Fluffy
10-24-2006, 09:53 PM
What a big load of crap that was!
I've never been impressed by a compliant demo in my life, but this one looks to be particularly poor... the guy is just pounding on a partner who stands there and keeps getting knocked down.
Bigshadow
10-24-2006, 10:38 PM
However, where he was striking on the neck actually works as demonstrated in this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sam6vfq7XS8
You will see this black belt hits just the right spot and gets the same results as you saw in the OP. However, this is unscripted and real. I don't believe the BB hit that nerve intentionally, I believe it was coincidence.
That being said, I thought the video sucked. That was a terrible demonstration. I am glad it wasn't a gun self defense class. :rolleyes:
Bigshadow
10-24-2006, 10:47 PM
the guy is just pounding on a partner who stands there and keeps getting knocked down.
The thing is, it can't be good for the body either. I don't believe the guy getting beat on is acting based on the video in my previous post. It must work, they seem to get the same results.
The OP video seems a little dangerous, careless, and wreckless to me.
tshadowchaser
10-25-2006, 12:45 AM
what they all said
donna
10-25-2006, 12:54 AM
I'm not impressed by people who knock out their partner while demonstrating, and I'm not impressed by partners who take pratfalls - so either, I'm not particularly impressed. Anyone can knock someone out, and anyone can take a dive... it's people who can do full-speed, full-power techniques, and not damage their partner, who impress me.
I totally agree. I couldnt watch the whole thing, turned it off in disgust half way through.
pstarr
10-25-2006, 01:36 AM
Anyone with some minimal martial arts training could perform exactly the same feat (if we can call it that) - his skill is really very small. His knowledge of the effects of his blows is equally minimal...knocking out some bozo repeatedly like that can have VERY serious effects.
I particularly enjoyed his resuscitation techniques...slap the guy a few times...
This guy is nothing special. Just some wombat who found another wombat who's stupid enough to let himself be knocked senseless over and over-
On the other hand, I have seen skilled people who could knock a man out with little more than a slight fingertip jab or even strikes to points on the arms...
Brandon Fisher
10-25-2006, 02:48 AM
Not impressed at all.
thetruth
10-25-2006, 06:45 AM
Anyone with some minimal martial arts training could perform exactly the same feat (if we can call it that) - his skill is really very small. His knowledge of the effects of his blows is equally minimal...knocking out some bozo repeatedly like that can have VERY serious effects.
I particularly enjoyed his resuscitation techniques...slap the guy a few times...
This guy is nothing special. Just some wombat who found another wombat who's stupid enough to let himself be knocked senseless over and over-
On the other hand, I have seen skilled people who could knock a man out with little more than a slight fingertip jab or even strikes to points on the arms...
Go easy on wombats mate! http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif
thetruth
10-25-2006, 06:48 AM
Kyosho (sic) Seminar with Kyoshi Roy Osborne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8u0YclB-XQ
Just another kyusho knob. I used to train under a similar knob. He too had puppets to dance for him. The funny thing was the longer I was there and the more I realised this sort of thing was crap the less effect they had on me. Ok maybe I was a puppet at one point but I saw the light
Cheers
Sam:asian:
Don Roley
10-25-2006, 07:15 AM
On the other hand, I have seen skilled people who could knock a man out with little more than a slight fingertip jab or even strikes to points on the arms...
I have doubts that you could replicate that under strict conditions. Those that do that sort of thing seem to have more with lunge acts that serious martial artists or professional scientists.
As for the original video, one time might let somone know how effective something is. This guy probably uses the same guy over and over again because he knows he will get good results from him.
Yeah, some people will fall over when hit like this. Some will just get mad. I use these type of things, but I never really rely on them doing the miracles they sometimes do.
bydand
10-25-2006, 07:38 AM
What a crock. I am suprised there are ANY students standing there watching that. If I were a student and thought that the show was even semi-real, I would be wondering when he would start whailing on me more than thinking about the training and technique.
Xue Sheng
10-25-2006, 09:31 AM
Indeed... although without knowing their relative positions/ranks it's hard to say just why he didn't do that.
True and I suppose out of respect he should not hand him a beating on camera or on front of the group, but I got to tell you, if he were using me for a training dummy like that.....afterwards.... we got a problem.
This guy is nothing special. Just some wombat who found another wombat who's stupid enough to let himself be knocked senseless over and over-
I like this description and I just felt this deserved reposting
searcher
10-25-2006, 10:44 AM
The thing is, it can't be good for the body either. I don't believe the guy getting beat on is acting based on the video in my previous post. It must work, they seem to get the same results.
The OP video seems a little dangerous, careless, and wreckless to me.
I agree whole-heartedly. How safe is it to hit a training partner in the neck? It is good for a laugh, but nothing more.
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