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fist of fury
09-17-2002, 04:25 PM
Why does the internet bring out all the losers?

http://www.geocities.com/magic48617/index.html

It took him 5 whole years to perfect this awesome style.

Danny
09-17-2002, 04:43 PM
The best part is when he mispells the word knowledge. :rofl: Spell check is a wonderful thing. :rolleyes:

jkn75
09-17-2002, 04:47 PM
:rofl: :rofl:
NICE! Where do I sign up? His martial arts background in all those diverse styles must have helped him become the Grand Master he is today.
Following in the footsteps of other martial arts masters he has stepped up and will now bless the world with this great style and bad spelling.

Kirk
09-17-2002, 04:50 PM
ROFL! Too true! Ironic that he misspelled the work knowledge,
huh? What is he, 25? His "senior master" in the pictures looks
all of 15!

jkn75
09-17-2002, 04:56 PM
OK. I sent this email to him
just had a couple of questions about your martial art. What is the syllabus/belt system? About how long until Black Belt? What weapons do you focus on? Where is your school?

I'll post the answers if I actually receive a reply. :D

fist of fury
09-17-2002, 05:12 PM
cool I can't wait to read his words of wisdom

LittleGirl
09-17-2002, 06:52 PM
Hmm... and I'm ashamed for My lousy english :shrug:

tonbo
09-17-2002, 07:32 PM
Oooooookkaaaayyyy.

Spent the last 5 years perfecting his art? *Really*? Hmm.

Okay, I've spent the last *10* years getting to the point where I feel like I am ready to *start* learning Kenpo.

My guess is that I am just a *bit* older than this guy, but I could be way wrong. He could be an ancient master who has found the secret of eternal youth--who knows?

I'm glad he has chosen to share his fantasy world with the rest of us. :shrug:

Peace--

KennethKu
09-17-2002, 07:41 PM
If you spent 5 years training in Muay Thai, you could be a very competent fighter :asian:

(Not that would lend any credibility to these guys)

Richard S.
09-17-2002, 07:46 PM
WHAT IS THAT SMELL?!!!!!!!!................

RyuShiKan
09-17-2002, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Richard S.

WHAT IS THAT SMELL?!!!!!!!!................


That is the scent of knowledge. ;)

RyuShiKan
09-17-2002, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by tonbo

Oooooookkaaaayyyy.

Spent the last 5 years perfecting his art? *Really*? Hmm.

Okay, I've spent the last *10* years getting to the point where I feel like I am ready to *start* learning Kenpo.

My guess is that I am just a *bit* older than this guy, but I could be way wrong. He could be an ancient master who has found the secret of eternal youth--who knows?

I'm glad he has chosen to share his fantasy world with the rest of us. :shrug:

Peace--


There has been an amazing discovery in the MAs lately.
They have found they certain people have a "GM" gene.
This "Grand Master" gene allows them to learn any MA in 1/20th the time it takes other martial arts people.
I'm surprised more people haven't heard about it.

kenpo_cory
09-17-2002, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Richard S.

WHAT IS THAT SMELL?!!!!!!!!................

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!! That's great!!!! Man, I love you guys!
Just what I've been looking for, a kid GM and his toddler senior master. :rofl:

Eraser
09-17-2002, 10:31 PM
Hey..

Is it just me.. or does the pic of him with his so called "chi" energy.. look like a bad knock off of a David Copperfield billet????
:rofl:

Rich Parsons
09-17-2002, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Eraser

Hey..

Is it just me.. or does the pic of him with his so called "chi" energy.. look like a bad knock off of a David Copperfield billet????
:rofl:


Check the picture again, and you can see the reflection of the plug in the wall in the mirror. Some prism is projecting his 'chi' to the Mirror and he is grabbing it in the mirror, which also explains the 'Chi' splash on the lens of the picture since it came from the Mirror.

The thing that really gets me is that so guy is about an hour from me. And I never knew about. I could have been driving to see him all these years.

Rich

MartialArtist
09-17-2002, 11:17 PM
Grandmaster in 5 years? First it was grandmaster in your senior years, and black belts (1st dan) when you're at least over 20. Then McDojos made it so you can get a black belt in a few years. Now they take it a step further and make it GM in 5 years. Not even a McDojo, more like an idiot webmaster and/or scam.

Qasim
09-18-2002, 12:08 AM
I think my high school gym uniform (I kept the tee shirt as a momento) is older than Grandmaster Lee.

Anyone who buys into this joke had better be under 8 years old, otherwise they're going to be getting exactly what they're paying for.

I think this guy and his Senior Master (does anyone else smell the Enfamil) have been watching to much Power Rangers.

:mst:

RyuShiKan
09-18-2002, 12:10 AM
I know I have socks older than him!

Nightingale
09-18-2002, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Rich Parsons




Check the picture again, and you can see the reflection of the plug in the wall in the mirror. Some prism is projecting his 'chi' to the Mirror and he is grabbing it in the mirror, which also explains the 'Chi' splash on the lens of the picture since it came from the Mirror.

The thing that really gets me is that so guy is about an hour from me. And I never knew about. I could have been driving to see him all these years.

Rich

Rich...

I don't think its a mirror...

but that lens flare effect is just like the one in photoshop...
hehe. see below...

I think the monkey has more chi.

MartialArtist
09-18-2002, 01:11 AM
Ummm...

His website is n00bishly designed, more like a 6 year old designed it for fun instead of it being a professional looking site like it should be.

islandtime
09-18-2002, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by Kirk

ROFL! Too true! Ironic that he misspelled the work knowledge,
huh? What is he, 25? His "senior master" in the pictures looks
all of 15!
.................................................. .............................

I just checked the site.. The link was down....Probably due to lack of interest.


Gene Gabel:D

7starmantis
09-18-2002, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by MartialArtist

Ummm...

His website is n00bishly designed, more like a 6 year old designed it for fun instead of it being a professional looking site like it should be.

HAHA, I agree, I have a baby nephew who can design more professional and well done webpages. Also, whats up with his lack of grammer and punctuation? Grandmaster in 5 years, but I'm still waiting for my High School Diploma! :rofl:

hubris
09-18-2002, 08:23 AM
This guy looks more like he wants to be a stylist than a martial artist. I'm not disrespecting stylists - I could use one. I just realized that I have a cleaning tag stuck on the end of my suit jacket.

Anyhoo, I hope some of the Michigan contigent will make tracks to visit this infant phenomena. And thanks for the heads up on the Martial Arts Gene. That explains so very many mysteries to me.

"Don't show off and act dumb."

bscastro
09-18-2002, 12:29 PM
I think he is like many young martial artists who aspire to some day create a martial art and be famous. Luckily, many young martial artists just keep it to themselves and learn better when they get older.

If he really wants to be famous, he should put up the Xin Shenti Challenge, similar to the Gracie challenge.

But seriously, he could have tried starting to teach his little class and after 10 years, then he could have whipped out the web site and we wouldn't be laughing as hard!

Cheers,
Bryan

7starmantis
09-18-2002, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by bscastro


But seriously, he could have tried starting to teach his little class and after 10 years, then he could have whipped out the web site and we wouldn't be laughing as hard!

Cheers,
Bryan

opperative words there....."AS HARD". lol

jazkiljok
09-18-2002, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by Richard S.

WHAT IS THAT SMELL?!!!!!!!!................

unmistakable- smells like teen chi...

perhaps he meant "grungemaster"? is he located in Seattle?

jkn75
09-18-2002, 01:08 PM
Ok, here is the response to the email I sent (the quote is on the first page of the thread).


I was glad to get your email. well we dont use
any belt system the reason for that is becouse while I
was studying in the american taekwondo assocation I
had alot of problems with the people that had black
belts it seemed like they would give just any body a
black belt if they had the money for it I watched alot
of black belts that you would think were white belts
it was realy dissapointing so instead I test you when
I feel that you have earned the chance. we have three
levels beginner intermediate and advanced.
we use the staff,kali,sticks and we do some knofe
traninf and self deffense agenst guns. I have just
recently moved my school into my home since I have
just moved and next year I will be opening one up in
virginia beach. thank you for sending me this email
and please feel free to write agian.

Kevin Lee

(Note: this is not modified in any way from what he sent, I copied and pasted it and then put it into the quote format.)

This speaks for itself I think. I sent another email asking about what you learn and when it is learned.

Stay tuned. :D

hubris
09-18-2002, 01:18 PM
Ach, this is so sad. He reminds me of the Robert DeNiro character in the Scorces movie with Jerry Lewis and Cybill Sheppard. Remember that character? He wanted to be a talk show host, and he had built a studio set in his bedroom where he talked and joked with cardboard cutouts of Liza Minnelli. Now and then his mom would yell at him asking him what he was doing. I can just picture this Lee kid throwing balls of chi around the room while his mother asks him when he's going to get a job.

"Don't show off and act dumb."

7starmantis
09-18-2002, 01:20 PM
:rofl:

I'm looking forward to reading the next email from him, if I can make out the giberish. Does his mommy care if he trains in his house ? I wonder what he charges for classes ? Maybe I'll write him too :D


7sm

hubris
09-18-2002, 01:29 PM
If that Lee kid lived in my neighborhood, every NIMBY on the block would be ratting him out to the Zoning Board for running a business out of his house. Now that would be an interesting fight - The Chi Kid vs. the Zoning Board. He could stun them all into silence by throwing chi around or bending spoons.

Master of Blades
09-18-2002, 01:48 PM
Lol this guy gimme jokes..........

Nightingale
09-18-2002, 01:48 PM
um... dumb question...

wuzza NIMBY?

-nightingale-

tonbo
09-18-2002, 01:54 PM
Hey, there is at least ONE good thing that this style can teach you.....excellent breath control! No, really!! The master's email even indicates such, although *very* subtly.....observe:

Read the master's response out loud. Just before the second "sentence" ("well we don't use..."), take a deep breath. Now read the second "sentence" at a normal pace, trying to get the whole thing out in one breath. It's a challenge, no? Keep training, grasshopper....it will come.

Wow. This guy just keeps getting better and better.

Oh, and a NIMBY? "Not In My Back Yard". Hehe...;)

:asian:

Peace--

bscastro
09-18-2002, 02:18 PM
I actually wonder how far he got in all of these systems he learned. I usually leave this stuff alone, but it's very funny. I think he was just waiting until he learned how to make web pages and put fancy stuff on his site to unleash his new art.

In any case, I still think the Xin Shenti Challenge would be the best way to promote his art.

Bryan

hubris
09-18-2002, 03:30 PM
NIMBY = "not in my backyard." A term of disparagement used by developers who want to put 100 condos and a strip mall on 2 acres of land. The developers cry and moan about the neighbors who go to the Planning Board and complain. NIMBY is a yin/yang sort of thing. Good NIMBY is saving open space, preserving the environment etc. Bad NIMBY is "I'm a suburban housewife with nothing to do but butt my nose in your affairs. Hey, Chi Boy, I see cars parked in your driveway at all hours of the day and night. I hear thumps and shouts. Are you trying to run a BUSINESS in a neighborhood that is zoned as RESIDENTIAL? No, don't try that 'ball of energy' nonsense on me, young man. I'm calling the mayor's office. After I've called your mother. Have a nice day. Love, Mrs. NIMBY."

Nightingale
09-18-2002, 03:49 PM
hehe... that makes sense...

I work for a governmental agency at the moment, and we get a lot of that...

sigh... waiting for the day when I can get back in the classroom after I get my master's because then they'll actually pay me enough money to live on.

Richard S.
09-18-2002, 04:56 PM
WHEW, MAN, ! ITS GETTING STRONGER!!!! I THINK IM GONNA...............

AvPKenpo
09-18-2002, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by jazkiljok



unmistakable- smells like teen chi...

perhaps he meant "grungemaster"? is he located in Seattle?

.........and this one time......I went to Grand Masters Camp..........

Michael

Qasim
09-18-2002, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by bscastro

But seriously, he could have tried starting to teach his little class and after 10 years, then he could have whipped out the web site and we wouldn't be laughing as hard!

You're right, we wouldn't be laughing as hard. We'd be laughing even harder!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

J-kid
09-19-2002, 01:58 AM
I was thinking............................


THis came into my mind why cant we all send 6 dollars to someone like don fry and he will use the money to travel around the world and destroy Mcdojos. I for one would give one days lunch money for that!!!!!

hubris
09-19-2002, 07:57 AM
Teen Chi vs. the McDojos! Hold the thought - I'lll start writing a treatment today. In order to sell this story, we'll have to bring in a love interest. Suggestions? I think we're going to make Teen Chi into a star!

"Don't show off and act dumb."

tonbo
09-19-2002, 10:26 AM
Hey, why don't we get together as a MA community and create our own mini-series? We could call it "American Grandmaster", and we could get a bunch of teen grandmaster wanna-be's together to compete to see who the American public likes best!! They could compete on looks, personal style, and the details of their own personally developed martial style (extra points given for more arts incorporated) Then, when the winner is chosen, they can go on a US tour and open their own studio!!

Yeah!!! Then the "losers" can set up their own studios, claiming the title of "runner-up" and so on!!

What do you guys think?? :rolleyes:

(And yes, this *is* a joke)

Peace--

Rich Parsons
09-19-2002, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by tonbo

Hey, why don't we get together as a MA community and create our own mini-series? We could call it "American Grandmaster", and we could get a bunch of teen grandmaster wanna-be's together to compete to see who the American public likes best!! They could compete on looks, personal style, and the details of their own personally developed martial style (extra points given for more arts incorporated) Then, when the winner is chosen, they can go on a US tour and open their own studio!!

Yeah!!! Then the "losers" can set up their own studios, claiming the title of "runner-up" and so on!!

What do you guys think?? :rolleyes:

(And yes, this *is* a joke)

Peace--

Tonbo,

You might think this is a joke. :D But, many people out there are hoping for just a mini series. This could be their ultimate break to be the Supreme Grand Master, since they had 'beaten' all the rest. Just go watch the re-runs and check for your self. :rofl:

Well to get serial for a moment, we could have a much longer series, if we did a mini series on each one before the competition. This would help to build the excitement amongst the fans and students. ;)

I really cannot believe this, but then again it is American TV.

Laugh well and enjoy life

Rich

:rofl: :rolleyes: :rofl:

jkn75
09-19-2002, 11:26 AM
Here was my second email to this guy


Since there is no belt system, what do learn and when do you learn it? Is there an order to things? Thanks.
and here is the response:


hi I just didnt understand your question you always
start with the basics there is beginner intermediate
and advanced this is not a registered style this is
all the training I have learned in one school why
should people have to go to taekwondo school to learn
how to fight on there feet and then go to a judo class
to learn how to grapple but you always start with the
basics.

Thank You
Kevin Lee

Well I hope this clears that up.:shrug: If anyone one wants to email him and try to figure out exactly what he does teach, go for it. He will get back to you, just post it here first so he doesn't get 40 emails about it and thinks something is up. I think he will be just as unresponsive so I don't know if that's going to lead to anything. Anyone in the Virginia Beach area could even go by and take a class. Please someone take a class I want to here how that mess would go.
:D

TLH3rdDan
09-19-2002, 11:46 AM
here is the email i sent to master lee cant wait for his reply to this:

Hi there master lee... I have a few questions for you... you mention that your art combines several different styles including tae kwon do, "karate", "kung fu" capoeira, hapkido, aikido, judo and jujitsu. Ok first question... what style of "karate" since that is such a generic term and what rank do you hold in that style and was your instructor and what is his lineage? Second question what style of "kung fu" have you studied and who was your instructor and what rank do you hold and what was his lineage? third question why did you choose to study both judo and jujitsu since jujitsu is the predecessor of judo and is a much more complete art? Third question what ranking system do you use is it Chinese Japanese Korean or Brazilian? Fourth question what length of time have you spent studying each of these many style and what ranks do you hold in each? Fifth question what weapons do you teach? how did you achieve the rank of grand master? What organization if any recognizes your art and your rank? I will be awaiting your reply.

bscastro
09-19-2002, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Rich Parsons



Tonbo,

You might think this is a joke. :D But, many people out there are hoping for just a mini series. This could be their ultimate break to be the Supreme Grand Master, since they had 'beaten' all the rest. Just go watch the re-runs and check for your self. :rofl:

Well to get serial for a moment, we could have a much longer series, if we did a mini series on each one before the competition. This would help to build the excitement amongst the fans and students. ;)

I really cannot believe this, but then again it is American TV.

Laugh well and enjoy life

Rich

:rofl: :rolleyes: :rofl:

The end of the series we can have the winner fight someone like Ken Shamrock or something. I think that would be funny.

Bryan

7starmantis
09-19-2002, 12:15 PM
HAHA, he's sitting there thinking, man look at all these emails and hits on my website!! I'm the next Van Damn!!


7sm

7starmantis
09-19-2002, 01:18 PM
Ok, now he's on to us!! I just got an email from him.....


hi I am sorry if this seems like I am being an ass but
I have had that web page up for a few years now and
obviously people have been talking **** about my style
becouse all of a sudden yesterday I got quite a few
emails from people that think they are ninjas asking
the same question what do you learn how long till
black belt well I feel that you dont care how long
till black belt all you want to do is critisize the
style if you are realy interested in knowing there is
no belt system there is only beginner intermediate and
advanced students I dont want my students worying
about the color of a belt I want them to learn the
technique and how to use it.


Thank you
Kevin Lee

hubris
09-19-2002, 01:27 PM
How did he figure it out? I wish he were a tai chi kind of guy because then I, Mrs. Hubris Nimby would have a friend. It's so lonely on the tai chi forum. But I had a tai chi teacher years ago (a David Koresh wannabe) who taught tai chi in his studio appartment. He also liked to throw "balls of energy" around. (As if!) I am so bummed out that I'll have to work my charge cards overtime at Nordstroms and get a new hair cut. My husband warned my that this forum was not "targeted to 50 year old women who take tai chi." Sigh.

Mrs. Hubris Nimby

"Don't show off and act dumb."

:confused:

Marginal
09-19-2002, 02:47 PM
I wonder how this grand master would fare against the secret art of sand throwing...

hubris
09-19-2002, 03:23 PM
Or "butt bones of death." That always works on my husband. You have to be skinny enough to inflict maximun damage, but it's a lethal move.

Kirk
09-19-2002, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by hubris

Or "butt bones of death." That always works on my husband. You have to be skinny enough to inflict maximun damage, but it's a lethal move.

ROFL! I've been the recepient of that technique many times! :rofl:

Qasim
09-19-2002, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Marginal

I wonder how this grand master would fare against the secret art of sand throwing...

Are you kidding? With that hair, the only thing his opponent would see is him running for cover to keep from having to go through another session with his hair stylist so soon after the last appointment.

:rofl: :rofl:

7starmantis
09-19-2002, 05:01 PM
I just got another email from him, seems he has graced me with his Chi-filled emails.

the reason I wrote that letter the way I did is
because you know just as well as I do that you werent
going to try and train with me the only thing you were
going to do is send me smart ass remarks like the one
you just sent telling me how I should react I dont
mind questions but when all of a sudden I get a ****
load of emails from people that are pissed off becouse
I have a web site up about my martial arts and they
email me and ash about my style and I reply then they
reply back with some smart ass remark I know that you
heard about me from a msg board on e-budo becouse some
one notifyed me and told me the same day I started
getting all these emails witch was two days ago untill
then I have never heard from any one about my style so
dont try to play me for a fool and pretend that you
were interested in learniing.

Kevin Lee
Doesn't seem he is having much luck with the new system he created. And for a Grandmaster, he sure has an anger management issue.

Nightingale
09-19-2002, 05:30 PM
I would suggest that he try to master the art of written communication before moving on to founding a system of martial arts. what's the point of talking about your system if no one can understand you because you don't use something as basic as punctuation?!

jkn75
09-19-2002, 11:24 PM
If this guy cared about his style, wouldn't he promote it anyway? Why wouldn't he try to defend himself and say,"I took a big risk in starting my own style, here you go" and lay out the information? So we don't want to study his style and want to make fun of it, if you set up shop in the marketplace of ideas be prepared for the results.

hubris
09-20-2002, 06:24 AM
It's amazing to me that when you look at all the books written about Chinese Martial Arts that you see photographs of old Chinese men with long beards living in simple homes. Old Master X lived to be 101, was always humble and kind, loved to teach, etc. Then the author of the book shows the lineage going back to 300 AD. (Making sure that the reader knows where the author falls in the lineage - i.e. number one adopted son to the nice old man with the long beard.) Amazingly, when the knowledge gets passed from the humble Chinese guy to the young Westerner, the ego control goes out the window. I've seen some guys get pretty angry and in-your-face about tai chi. Fellahs, chill! And you thought that tai chi was a wussy MA for middle-aged women who wave their arms around like the dames in the Celebrex commercial! Anyway, I would love to see young Mr. Lee on the cover of Teen Chi Magazine. I think an interview about hair care products would be of interest to all readers. "Mr Lee, how do you keep your hair so sleek, silky and manageable? Do you ever have a bad hair day? What is your favorite chakra color? If you could data anyone you met in any of your previous lives, who would that lucky girl be? Finally, what's more important when you meet a girl - her looks or her aura?"

tonbo
09-20-2002, 11:50 AM
Rich:

Yeah, I know about the desire some people have to see a great "grandmaster showdown".....I was playing that off of the "American Idol" thing, and trying to spoof a Hollywood/MA collaboration for the same concept.

Hey, the *idea* may be good, but just look how many questions the UFC has *decisively* answered. So, based on the UFC results, just what *is* the best MA? Hmmmmm.......and, once a decision is made, is it ever challenged? Yep. You guessed it. I think a "grandmaster showdown" would obviously meet some of the same problems. I just thought it would be a good spoof..;)

And this GM Lee guy.....eeeesh. He needs to get involved in the one reality that the rest of us are in. If he is going to create his own style, he should both *expect* and *welcome* challenges. The MA community has *never* just accepted new MA styles: the established styles usually laugh at "new" styles, and at the VERY least request some sort of validation from them. Bruce Lee fought hard (sometimes literally) to validate JKD, and Ueshiba Sensei did the same with Aikido. The point is, that if this guy has something that is so effective and unique, as well as beneficial to the community on the whole, he should be ready, willing, and able to discuss his style in a logical, concise, and friendly manner. He should be able to explain both *how* and *why* things work in his style, and how it is different from the established styles.

Above all else, the new "GM" must have patience. Styles aren't created overnight, nor are they ever "perfected". Bruce Lee was constantly "tweaking", as was SGM Ed Parker and just about every other founder that has walked the earth. This guy spent 5 years, and he is *done*? Right.

Okay, I'm done rambling. This Lee guy is really out of his league. He doesn't have the maturity nor the experience to even *begin* this style-building venture, let alone manage it.

Peace--

Kirk
09-20-2002, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by tonbo

Rich:

Yeah, I know about the desire some people have to see a great "grandmaster showdown".....I was playing that off of the "American Idol" thing, and trying to spoof a Hollywood/MA collaboration for the same concept.

Hey, the *idea* may be good, but just look how many questions the UFC has *decisively* answered. So, based on the UFC results, just what *is* the best MA? Hmmmmm.......and, once a decision is made, is it ever challenged? Yep. You guessed it. I think a "grandmaster showdown" would obviously meet some of the same problems. I just thought it would be a good spoof..;)

And this GM Lee guy.....eeeesh. He needs to get involved in the one reality that the rest of us are in. If he is going to create his own style, he should both *expect* and *welcome* challenges. The MA community has *never* just accepted new MA styles: the established styles usually laugh at "new" styles, and at the VERY least request some sort of validation from them. Bruce Lee fought hard (sometimes literally) to validate JKD, and Ueshiba Sensei did the same with Aikido. The point is, that if this guy has something that is so effective and unique, as well as beneficial to the community on the whole, he should be ready, willing, and able to discuss his style in a logical, concise, and friendly manner. He should be able to explain both *how* and *why* things work in his style, and how it is different from the established styles.

Above all else, the new "GM" must have patience. Styles aren't created overnight, nor are they ever "perfected". Bruce Lee was constantly "tweaking", as was SGM Ed Parker and just about every other founder that has walked the earth. This guy spent 5 years, and he is *done*? Right.

Okay, I'm done rambling. This Lee guy is really out of his league. He doesn't have the maturity nor the experience to even *begin* this style-building venture, let alone manage it.

Peace--

Bruce Lee's done a lot for M.A. in the U.S. but he's also done some
damage too. A lot of people take Bruce's philosophies to mean
get a yellow belt in a ton of arts and in 5 years create your own
style :shrug:

tonbo
09-20-2002, 05:24 PM
You know, you are SO right.

That's why people shouldn't be creating their own art without a LOT of training, foresight, and experience. If your common everyday Joe starts up his own style, like this guy Master Lee, then there is gonna be nothing but trouble.

That having been said, let me tell you about my new style. I spent most of this morning perfecting it.....and my 8-year-old son is the current master of the style, but he doesn't know it yet. I will be telling him about it tonight and showing him the secret moves over the weekend.

By Monday, I should be ready to teach this out of the entryway of the local video store (the only place I could rent space).....

:D

Seriously, though. You are right. Just because Bruce Lee took what he thought was useful and advocated that others do the same doesn't mean that others can pull it off the same way. The most common mentality you see is for people to take a month or two of a bunch of different styles, lump a bunch of techniques together, and figure that they are now ready for either a) UFC or b) creating their own "lethal style". (No slam meant to those who train UFC, by the way!). Some of these creative geniuses actually have.....*gasp*....a YEAR or more of training!!

*whew*.....glad I'm just a student, and I don't have the weight of a pioneering grandmaster to deal with.....:D

(Carrying around the ego alone could be a problem!!)

Peace--

Nightingale
09-20-2002, 05:32 PM
the name "Kevin Lee" is making me suspicious... perhaps he is trying to associate himself with bruce lee? The email I got back from him was signed "Kevin Lee" but the "mail from" field said "Kevin Benchek"

very odd...

This is the email I got from him, my email addy removed.



To: <*********@hotmail.com>
From: Kevin Benchek <magic48617@yahoo.com>
Re: xen shenti

Hello...

becouse of all the emails I have decided to update
my web site I guess quite a few people were mislead by
my site and I apologise for that so I have recently
updated my page and added an info page so you can read
about my background and why I started xin shenti the
link is http://www.geocities.com/magic48617

Hopefully that will answer any of your questions if
you have any more please feel free to email me thank
you.

Kevin Lee

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tmanifold
09-20-2002, 05:34 PM
I have to agree. It is one thing to spend five years learning enough to defend yourself or teach an existing style. But it is another thing entirely to take five years of knowledge and create your own style. Unless, perhaps, it is 5 years of 40 hour a week training and getting in fights on the weekends, then maybe one might have something.

Tony

TLH3rdDan
09-20-2002, 09:25 PM
lol well no email from master teen chi yet but he did answer half my questions in that updated website... he must be kano reincarnated to have gotten a brown belt in one year at the age of 15 in judo... well maybe someone from the board can go visit teen chi and find out what he really knows

7starmantis
09-21-2002, 09:23 AM
I'm really starting to think this guy is just looking for attention or something. I mean, he can't be serious!! Why would he not think to change the name he is using at yahoo to reflect his "new" name Lee. Also, look at this quote from his webpage...
when I was 15 my father put me in a judo class while were in jermany the man that tought that was Sgt. Calger I studied for about a year I received a brown belt in that style

If you had lived in Germany, wouldn't you be able to spell it? I mean, I have lived in Tecksas all my life, and I can spell it. Also, whats up with no sentence ending punctuation ? Its also a little odd that he received his black belt from his father at 13. It sounds like he has done nothing but the "Karate Kid" type of training. No real in school training. This guy is great, did you see the picture section? Wow!!


:rofl:
7sm

Shinzu
09-29-2002, 11:15 AM
sounds pretty shady. he doesnt even know the background of the original style his father taught him?

highly unlikely if it was a real style. YAWN:rofl:

Richard S.
09-29-2002, 03:57 PM
do you people think this fool has any idea that he has generated 5 PAGES of giggles somewhere?

Nightingale
09-29-2002, 04:05 PM
hehe. yup. well, he doesn't know about MT, but he does know about something like fifteen pages of insults and raves and flames on e-budo too!

7starmantis
09-29-2002, 04:07 PM
HAHA, he sent me an email saying he was tired of the ***** and we thought we were a bunch on ninjas just wanting to critisize his style. I replied that I study Kung Fu and in no way think I'm a ninja! :D


7sm

jwreck
09-30-2002, 04:36 AM
So, do you think his "senior masteer" re;ocated with him? Maybe now their will be two schools of XIN SHENTI!!!:eek:

hubris
09-30-2002, 09:05 AM
Maybe he's under pressure to get into a really big name college. His college application will stand out from the crowd, all right. Forget the president of the student counsel, the football star, the clarenet player - this kid has CHI dammit!