darn stereotypes!!!

[muayThaiPerson]

in the past month. i have witness people talk about martial arts. some talked to me and some talked to others. what i hear are stupid stereotypes like "u do kung fu or karate?" or they get in that Karate Kid stance. one of the things that make me mad the most is when the do that "wwwwwhooooooooooooaaaaa" sound. i wished theyd understand.:asian:

and there are people out there who actually think that martial arts is weak. and whoever joins is a bad fighter. they always want to challenge you. :mad:

i simply just try to tell them what MA is about. but ill just save me energy

do u guys have any stereo types u hate?

[Marginal]

The whole "TKD sucks" crowd gets kinda boring...

[D.Cobb]

Originally posted by muayThaiPerson

in the past month. i have witness people talk about martial arts. some talked to me and some talked to others. what i hear are stupid stereotypes like "u do kung fu or karate?" or they get in that Karate Kid stance. one of the things that make me mad the most is when the do that "wwwwwhooooooooooooaaaaa" sound. i wished theyd understand.:asian:

and there are people out there who actually think that martial arts is weak. and whoever joins is a bad fighter. they always want to challenge you. :mad:

i simply just try to tell them what MA is about. but ill just save me energy

do u guys have any stereo types u hate?


I hate when someone finds out you do martial arts and they say, "Well, I'd better not pick a fight with you then!"

So, what? You would have picked a fight if I didn't do martial arts?

My favourite question is, "Have you ever had to use it?"
My answer, "Everyday in everything I do!"

--Dave

:asian:

[Shinzu]

i think peoples stupidity bothers me the most. the old saying still holds true..."you cant teach an old dog new tricks."

they always have a comment to provoke you, or put what you are doing down. people mock what they don't understand...how sad :(

[MartialArtist]

TKD blows
boxing is better
BJJ is king
traditionalists can't fight
do a quadruple spinning kick
throw a fireball
throw a hadoken
many other stereotypes...

The only stereotype that I've heard that even has little truth in it is that it doesn't matter what belt you have, you don't need one to fight well. That's true, especially in the West. Although in the East, it has a little more indication on skill.

[Angus]

Originally posted by Marginal

The whole "TKD sucks" crowd gets kinda boring...

Amen.

I just don't let people know I do martial arts unless I know they'll be cool about it. It's not that important to let people know because of the whole "so beat my ass then!" thing. Waste of my time and breath.

Basically, they don't bother me because I don't advertise it. No reason to worry about it.

[karatekid1975]

The whole "TKD sucks" thing or "TKD is just a sport, not good for self defense" thing is getting old fast. I just wanna "show" them that it's not true (besides the McDojangs). I always say that it's not the martial art, it's the person practicing it. If you training like s**t, you'll get your @$$ kicked. If you train hard, work hard at what you are doing, you'll be good. Plain and simple. That goes for any martial art.

[Despairbear]

People who have no understand of somthing say it has no value? ok......(puzzled look)

I once was told that MA's only works aginst other people who study MA's but it would never work aginst some one untrained. Unfortunatly I could not think of a stunning reply to this so I asked the guy to come by our dojo and take a look some time and see what he thinks.


Despair Bear

[928Porsche]

Interesting. I've been studying ninpo for two years now and nobody has even hinted about challenging me in any way. Most have never heard of ninpo and they ask if its like (insert MA of choice here).

The closest is my work companions. They've asked me to show them something or other and I'll usually do a joint lock of some kind (painful :D ). Now, most of my co-workers are afraid of me in that respect, especially if I say something like, "Hey, let me show you this one..."
:ninja:

[Roland]

The guy doing the interview kept making the dumbist remarks.

"You know me, Crouching Tiger, Hidden JEFF"
"Better watch what I say about you I guess!"
"Heeeeyahh!"
:OOOOOOo, bet you are tough."

Really, he was nuts.
Gou was there, ask him!!
Gou came up afterwards and asked if we felt like we really should have smacked him around after the interview.
What an idiot.

[muayThaiPerson]

theres a thing going on that make ppl think boxers can kick MAists a$$. this thing is called tv. on tv, boxers are are these huge guys with power punches. while MAist are these petite guys with abs and high kicks. peple often get the wrong idea that huge boxer guys have the advantage over the MAist.

[Kirk]

Originally posted by muayThaiPerson

theres a thing going on that make ppl think boxers can kick MAists a$$. this thing is called tv. on tv, boxers are are these huge guys with power punches. while MAist are these petite guys with abs and high kicks. peple often get the wrong idea that huge boxer guys have the advantage over the MAist.

They do.

[RyuShiKan]

Originally posted by Kirk



They do.


And how is that?

[sammy3170]

In a word (2 actually), WHO CARES!!!


I honestly could give a fat rats clacker about how people stereotype what I do. I do it because I love it not to impress anyone else. Everyone has a right to their opinion and we should respect that. If someone asks me about how tough I am now or what would I do in a certain situation I just tell them that I am about to show them a Special Hidden
Instructors Technique and then I take the karate kid stance or some other movie type stance. Get a sense of humour guys. If such small and insignificant issues bother you how do you cope when something that really matters happens?


Just Some Thoughts

Cheers
Sammy

[Kirk]

Originally posted by RyuShiKan




And how is that?


Said best with plagiarism:
Boxers are tough, are used to getting hit, train against unco-operative opponents and hit really hard. Quite frankly, most MArtists don't train that way.

Most martial artists have to pull techniques or someone could
be seriuosly injured or worse which can be habit forming.

A boxer may have less techniques than most martial artists but that allows them to truly master every punch in their
arsenal.
:asian:

[Nightingale]

omg... I hear stuff like this all the time...

my grad school prof tried to break the ice in the class by having us play the game "two truths and a lie" you have to tell two true things about yourself and one lie, and the class guesses which is the lie. I said "I sang back-up for Michael Crawford at the Hollywood Bowl, I've taken karate lessons for more than ten years, and I have my pilot's license."

Every single person in class thought the karate was the lie. It wasn't, of course.

My professor, upon hearing that the karate was true, held up his hands, backed away and told the class "don't piss her off." I just laughed and told him that just because I knew how to fight doesn't mean that I go around starting fights.

[Carbon]

Hehe there is a McDojo at the rec center and I know this might sound cruel but bare with my adolesence.

There are a bunch of kids in there that are say little-man syndrome who are not the toughest of the bunch and I commend them for taking up MA but its funny to watch their instructor throw kicks and for the kids maybe 1 or 2 years under me spar with each other.

Its just odd to see someone so untrained with a high ranking belt on and him probably thinking that me watching is strange. I've seen them eyeball me same with the instructor when I watch and I think that he thinks that I am interested in joining or something?

But I would never join this dojo :( No way lol. Its just to horrible to imagine grrr. I just wish I could spar some of there kids. There is 1 junior black belt instructor that is like 16 , 17 that looks of decent skill.

[sammy3170]

A boxer masters 5, maybe 6 techniques (jab,hook,cross, rip, uppercutand maybe the overhand punch) and defends only against punches. Their opponents are predetermined so they can train for their opponents weaknesses and have a whole bunch of rules to fight by and only certain targets to hit. Yes they do punch hard and this may transcend well to some degree in the street but once they're no longer in a range where they can punch they're screwed. Boxing isn't all that and full contact sparring isn't the best and only way to learn to defend yourself. Lastly, who wants to end up with irreversable brain damage for the sake of some glory or even in the name of self defence.


Just some thoughts

Cheers
Sammy

[fist of fury]

Originally posted by muayThaiPerson

in the past month. i have witness people talk about martial arts. some talked to me and some talked to others. what i hear are stupid stereotypes like "u do kung fu or karate?" or they get in that Karate Kid stance. one of the things that make me mad the most is when the do that "wwwwwhooooooooooooaaaaa" sound. i wished theyd understand.:asian:

and there are people out there who actually think that martial arts is weak. and whoever joins is a bad fighter. they always want to challenge you. :mad:

i simply just try to tell them what MA is about. but ill just save me energy

do u guys have any stereo types u hate?

When they pull that and take that wide bruce lee stance I just kick them right in the nuts and walk away.

[tonbo]

The one I get rankled at the most is the "my style can beat your style" or "is a [insert style here] practitioner better than a [insert style here] practitioner?".

Ya just can't compare styles like that.....it isn't that easy. 'Course, you see this all the time, where people compare sports stars, movie stars, etc. It's all subjective, for the most part.

The other one I like is when people mention to me that they are interested in the martial arts, and have "done some research" on the MA. Then they ask me what I do. When I tell them I study Kenpo, I almost always get "Oh, is that like....". Yeah. Just like it. Except that it's different. :rolleyes:

Stupidity in most forms bothers me. I don't handle stupid people well. If someone asks a legitimate question, no problem, even if they are asking about something that they know nothing about. As long as they are *honest* about it. I admit, I don't know everything, and I am not afraid to look like a dolt, asking the most basic of questions. That, I can handle......but, if you're going to ask questions, think a bit before opening yer mouth, okies?

Sheesh. I sound like a grumpy old man....hehe.....

Anyway, there ya go.

Peace--

[jkn75]

I usually get the questions, "what is kuk sool won like, is it like (insert MA here)?". And I agree with everyone on this post that say a martial art really can't be compared to another.

My favorite thing is when we go outside and practice and people drive by and kiai or call names out the window. Funny, they never seem to stop.

:asian:

[fist of fury]

Or how about no matter what type of martial art you study someone is bound to say"Oh you study karrody":mad:

[KennethKu]

Check this stereotype

http://www.mntaekwondocenter.com/gallery/gallery_qt8.html

[tonbo]

Seems like no matter what style you study, the minute you mention that you are in the MA, *someone* will invariably ask.....

"Are you a Black Belt?"

Eeeeesh. Time to answer like Mr. Miyagi, and mention that I do, indeed, have a black belt. I also have a brown belt. Both cost me a couple of bucks down at the men's department at the local store. They are great for holding my pants up; which one I wear depends on what color shoes I have on..;)

Am I a Black Belt? Depends.....you mean do I *wear a black belt with my uniform*? Do you mean do I *have the Black Belt spirit or attitude*? Do you mean do I *have a Black Belt*? (You can buy one in a catalog, ya know...hehe).

Before I actually earned my Black, I would joke with people at our school by going over to the "for sale" belt rack, picking up a Black Belt, and saying, "Why, yes....I hold a Black Belt in Kenpo". Yeah, not highbrow humor, but hey.....

Yeah, like Black is the *only* color that matters, and like the belt rank is the be-all end-all.

Now, I just tell people that I am an "advanced white belt". *That* drives 'em nuts.

:D

Peace--

[Carbon]

I know that this will probably deserve its own thread, but I think that belts and ranks should be done away with.

Skill should no longer be determined by what color your belt is but by how well you fight. I think in each dojo they should have an internal tournaments to decide the skills of each individual student.

Also I think that the teacher should decide who he moves up and that would probably mean alot more hearing your sifu say I'm not going to teach you blah blah instead of you earned your black belt wooo....

[Kirk]

Originally posted by Carbon

I know that this will probably deserve its own thread, but I think that belts and ranks should be done away with.

Skill should no longer be determined by what color your belt is but by how well you fight. I think in each dojo they should have an internal tournaments to decide the skills of each individual student.

Also I think that the teacher should decide who he moves up and that would probably mean alot more hearing your sifu say I'm not going to teach you blah blah instead of you earned your black belt wooo....

Like it or not, size makes a big difference. What if you have a
dojo full of guys that are 5' 5" and a 6'9" guy signs up? He'd
be a black belt that day, going by your philosophy.

[Carbon]

I'm not saying that the tournaments would be held daily. Also in reality though don't you think the fighter should adapt to the much taller person and overcome him or atleast make efforts to do so.

If the sifu saw that you were making advances to improve yourself he could see it fit that you would move up. Also a 6'9 man would have a rather hard time being agile enough to catch a 5'5 person.

[Kirk]

Originally posted by Carbon

I'm not saying that the tournaments would be held daily. Also in reality though don't you think the fighter should adapt to the much taller person and overcome him or atleast make efforts to do so.

If the sifu saw that you were making advances to improve yourself he could see it fit that you would move up. Also a 6'9 man would have a rather hard time being agile enough to catch a 5'5 person.

Just food for thought. Belts have their place in my opinion.
Catching or not catching? What if the 6'9" guy didn't chase?
Some schools do exactly what you're saying, but I'm just saying
that it's no better/worse than a belt system.

[muayThaiPerson]

one time, i talked with this Tkd practisioner. i thought "oh, i fellow MAist". but i think he went to a mcdojo or was just plain stupid. i told him i do Muay Thai, he said, "so you people practice that kind of karate?". that was one of the stupidest things i heard!!!!

not only was it stupid but was an insult the way he said it:mad:

[J-kid]

Since i started martial arts in school they ask whats your favorite passtime i say martial arts. 2 mins later everyones calling me bruce lee, Here is also a good one i tell them when they ask that i am in Judo/Jujutsu Mauy tia kickboxing and JKD, They first go whats JKD , i Answer , then they start talking about the JUDO-CHOP when there is really no such thing, LOL they go do the judo chop so i hit them really lighty on a nerve near the side of the neck and they think its awsome even though i made that up. And after words i tell them there is no such thing as a JUDO-CHOP they go I have seen it in movies blah blah blah, Then when i see them again there like JUDO-CHOP and make a WAAAA sound really kind of :soapbox:

[muayThaiPerson]

ive read some post. and from the looks of it, those who dont know only assume and based their info on movies and tv. well they can be very intimidated by ANYTHING you do. i once made up a move, like judo-kid, where i jumped around like an ape and called it the "gorilla tactic". you can also make a fool of them by telling them to fight like "this" or "that" and itll look completely stupid:rofl:

[Carbon]

How can you think that you are bettering yourself as a fighter when you are in so many different styles at once.

I think this prohibits your ability to learn any one style effectively.

Also why are you hitting them? I don't see why you would want to try and hurt them just to try and prove a point.

I've ready many of your posts and I think that your goal to be a UFC fighter or to study MA isn't in good intentions and that you just want to beable to kick anyone's @$$ you see.

And that you don't really appreciate MA its just a way for you to get to the ultimate goal of being able to become a bully yourself.

[J-kid]

Carbon How can you think that you are bettering yourself as a fighter when you are in so many different styles at once.

Judo/Jujutsu are about 20% diffrent from each other making it easy to learn both at the same time. JKD/Mauy Tia Kickboxing go well with each other and have many of the same basic ideas.


Also why are you hitting them? I don't see why you would want to try and hurt them just to try and prove a point

I dont hurt them at all what gave you the idea i did the fact that i made of a joke of a move and really lightly show them it. They think its really cool and i get to tell them that its not really a move.
In no way am i hurting them.


I've ready many of your posts and I think that your goal to be a UFC fighter or to study MA isn't in good intentions and that you just want to beable to kick anyone's @$$ you see.

I wouldnt mind being able to defend myself vs anykind of attack on me. But self defense is one of my goals in martial art. I wouldnt put it that i look at people and think i can kick your @SS as you so well put it.


And that you don't really appreciate MA its just a way for you to get to the ultimate goal of being able to become a bully yourself

I do sppreciate MA and no my goal is not to become a bully , I do take this comment offensively thats for the insalt carbon. I think this statement will have to be one of the dumber ones i have gotten , In no way at all am i bully i suggest you get things right befor opening your mouth in a public form. I can asume alot about you from your post but because i dont know i wont say, BECAUSE I DONT KNOW YOU, wow what a idea.

[Kirk]

I think if the 2 of you actually KNEW each other, you'd be good
friends.

[Aegis]

Originally posted by Judo-kid


Judo/Jujutsu are about 20% diffrent from each other making it easy to learn both at the same time. JKD/Mauy Tia Kickboxing go well with each other and have many of the same basic ideas.



Not quite sure which styles of Judo/Jujitsu you've been doing, but that's not quite right, unless you found a traditional Judo school (unlikely seeing as how you said there was no such thing as a "Judo Chop", which there used to be under the atemi-waza section of the syllabus....).

Judo is about 20% of Jujtsu would have been more appropriate, Since judo is comprised of throws, holds, strangles and armlocks, while Jujitsu keeps these and also teaches striking, minor locks, neck locks, wrist lock throws, weapons training, weapons defence, dealing with multiple opponents, etc.....


Sorry, but I really do have a grudge against modern Judo, and hope they bring back the Goshin-Jutsu part of the syllabus....

[Carbon]

What I mean by a bully is that you learned MA and now you are wanting to exact revenge on someone who hurt your feelings.

I mean big deal, be a man and leave it alone, dwelling on things only make things worse.

If the only thing you can think about is wanting to beat someone up then you have some serious self-analyzing to do to find out why you are so angry at people.

Sure, he embarassed you... so what? Lots of people are embarassed, but to think that you are going to solve anything with a fight is quite ignorant.

Also you say I don't know you, but really your personality reflects on your posts. I could also say things of ill manner that would be insulting to you.

Its just that I never hit anyone, no matter what they do to me, its quite frustrating to see someone think that hitting is a way of solving anything.

[J-kid]

I think you can take your self ego trip that you like to take else were. You say that you know me from my posts, yet if this was true I could tell from your post that your a real jerk. You call me a bully i call you a jerk. The guy i wanted to fight picks on other kids (i was never around when this happend) and also tryed picking a fight with me urler in the summer when he had all of his friends along and i didnt say ****. There is no way you can tell how people are from there posts/ to words for you. GROW UP

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