When did the Tracys get their Black Belts?

[IWishToLearn]

I've read this several different ways -

Ibrao, Flores, Montgomery, Sullivan, Tracys

Beeder, Flores, Montgomery, Sullivan, Tracys

Ibrao, Flores, Montgomery, Beeder, Sullivan, Tracys

Beeder, Flores, Montgomery, Tracys, Sullivan


Any of these close?

[Flying Crane]

I think it is on their website, if you sift thru it a bit. I think the lists you posted are close, and I think James Ibrao was Mr. Parker's first student he promoted to Black Belt.

[Xue Sheng]

As previously stated by Flying Crane "sift thru it "

Tracy Website
http://www.tracyskarate.com/

TRACY FAMILY TREE
http://www.tracyskarate.com/Tracytree/treemstpage.htm

THE TRACY SYSTEM OF KENPO
HISTORY SERIES
INDEX OF HISTORY SUBJECT
http://www.tracyskarate.com/History/histindex.htm

[Sapper6]

I think it is on their website, if you sift thru it a bit. I think the lists you posted are close, and I think James Ibrao was Mr. Parker's first student he promoted to Black Belt.

Ibrao was not Parker's first black belt.

The first three were Breeder, Mongomery, and then Flores. I don't know after that.

Mr. Bleeker can verify this, as he resourced this question in depth while writing "The Journey". If you have doubts, give him a call.

[HKphooey]

Didn't Breeder's own son contest that claim?

[Sapper6]

Didn't Breeder's own son contest that claim?

perhaps, but i also know what Ed Parker's wife claims.

[Sapper6]

i didn't realize this question was posed to the AK seniors (hence the forum it's under).

hopefully one of those old dudes can chime in and set us all straight, eh?

[IWishToLearn]

:) I figured it was more efficient to ask the Seniors than to sift through everyone's self bios on their pages. :)