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mantis
05-05-2006, 01:14 AM
I am not sure this is the proper place to ask this.

I was wondering where I can find the 7 star double canes on the net to buy. I am NOT looking for 2 short staffs (which i already have), but i am looking for the metal spikey canes

(for reference: the canes michelle yoeh used against ziyi zhang in the big open room with her "green destiny" sword)

7starmantis
05-05-2006, 12:31 PM
Um....Hookswords?

I'm not sure what your refering to, I'll have to watch that part again I guess.

7sm

mantis
05-05-2006, 12:38 PM
Um....Hookswords?

I'm not sure what your refering to, I'll have to watch that part again I guess.

7sm

i am sure you know.
the 7 star double cane form?
they're basically 2 metal sticks or rods that are 1.5 - 2 feet long. they are about 20 or 30 lb's in weight. they are not smooth in surface, they have small spikes or rings on them.
we learn the form with short staffs made out of wood, but that's only because one of our instructors was practicing and it flew out of his hand to pierce the wall of the school and get to the neighbor's shop. so they replaced them with wood sticks.

clfsean
05-05-2006, 12:51 PM
Iron Rods/Hard Whips... they come in a variety of shapes & sizes. I've not seen any like were used in CTHD, but at MAM or WLE they've got them listed as bian... whip. That'll be as close as you get to those I believe.

mantis
05-05-2006, 01:00 PM
Iron Rods/Hard Whips... they come in a variety of shapes & sizes. I've not seen any like were used in CTHD, but at MAM or WLE they've got them listed as bian... whip. That'll be as close as you get to those I believe.
they're not whips
they are metal canes, look like short staffs or escrima sticks but they're 1. metal, 2. not smooth

clfsean
05-05-2006, 01:09 PM
they're not whips
they are metal canes, look like short staffs or escrima sticks but they're 1. metal, 2. not smooth

they are called bian... but you're right. there's absolutely no way I could possibly know what I'm talking about. I'm wrong. Totally wrong... do you want me to tell them or are you going to handle it???

http://www.martialartsmart.net/45-77.html

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/martialartsmart_1896_6616080

mantis
05-05-2006, 01:13 PM
they are called bian... but you're right. there's absolutely no way I could possibly know what I'm talking about. I'm wrong. Totally wrong... do you want me to tell them or are you going to handle it???

http://www.martialartsmart.net/45-77.html

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/martialartsmart_1896_6616080

yep, these are the ones. thank you very much!

i just have trouble explaining shapes in words, it's challenging sometimes. hmm.. i did not know they're called 'whips'.. interesting!
do you know why they are called that, altho they do not look like whips?

thank you sir!

mantis
05-05-2006, 01:20 PM
yoohoo
turns out i was totally off describing this thing...
i thought it weighted 20-30 lb's.. but it's only 5.2 LOL
i thought it was 1.5-2 feet long, but it's only 26" long!!!
altho it says weight and length may vary...

clfsean
05-05-2006, 01:21 PM
yep, these are the ones. thank you very much!

No problem.


i just have trouble explaining shapes in words, it's challenging sometimes. hmm.. i did not know they're called 'whips'.. interesting!

Well next time before you arbitrarily tell somebody they're wrong, you might want to stop, look or listen to what they have to say or check out their information. You'll go farther without having to apologise so much.

I'm still waiting btw...


do you know why they are called that, altho they do not look like whips?

thank you sir!

Because with many things Chinese, form doesn't always carry the same meaning as function.

mantis
05-05-2006, 01:26 PM
No problem.



Well next time before you arbitrarily tell somebody they're wrong, you might want to stop, look or listen to what they have to say or check out their information. You'll go farther without having to apologise so much.

I'm still waiting btw...



Because with many things Chinese, form doesn't always carry the same meaning as function.

oh, telling you that you are wrong was not in my mind.. i apologize if that offended you. i was only trying to describe the weapon. i realize my language is confusing sometimes... sorry again sir..

have you done any forms with this weapon before?

clfsean
05-05-2006, 01:32 PM
oh, telling you that you are wrong was not in my mind.. i apologize if that offended you. i was only trying to describe the weapon. i realize my language is confusing sometimes... sorry again sir..

Thanks & no problem.


have you done any forms with this weapon before?

Nope... nothing to date with it & I don't believe CLF has the weapon in our set lists.

mantis
05-05-2006, 01:37 PM
Nope... nothing to date with it & I don't believe CLF has the weapon in our set lists.

CLF is?

clfsean
05-05-2006, 02:18 PM
Choy Li Fut

mantis
05-05-2006, 02:32 PM
Choy Li Fut
ah... sure it is
makes sense...
that's a very interesting style...
im going to be joining a choy li fut school on the side starting this summer when i am away from home... it's somewhere under sifu Doc-Fai Wong lineage...

7starmantis
05-05-2006, 02:38 PM
Yes, sometimes they are practticed as the Gans.

Just for the record, I dont think we are so proud of ourselves that we have to demand appologies from each other are we? clfsean you really jumped the gun there man, he wasn't disrespecting you, he simply didn't understand what you were refering to. There is no reason to get our egos all in a bunch, any of us.

7sm

clfsean
05-05-2006, 02:45 PM
7*.... check the PM.