View Full Version : "Always be able to kill your students,"
fightingfat
05-03-2006, 05:42 AM
Some Ninja News for you all :)
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/features/news/20060427p2g00m0fe016000c.html
NODA, Japan -- The teachings of Grand Master Masaaki Hatsumi echo through my head as he entreats me to attack a blackbelted disciple with a practice sword. "Always be able to kill your students," he says.
green meanie
05-03-2006, 06:14 AM
Interesting. Thanks! :)
rutherford
05-03-2006, 10:36 AM
Scooped.
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33359
fightingfat
05-03-2006, 10:46 AM
Dang! :)
Gemini
05-03-2006, 11:12 AM
Interesting read. Thanks
bobster_ice
05-03-2006, 12:05 PM
That article makes me laugh.
Gemini
05-03-2006, 12:14 PM
That article makes me laugh.
Why?
bushidomartialarts
05-03-2006, 12:59 PM
kinda sad, but i like the underlying thought.
as teachers, we can never just rest on our laurels. we need to train and stay in good form all the time.
nothing sadder than a fat, slow sensei still cashing in on success he had five years and fifty pounds ago.
rutherford
05-03-2006, 01:44 PM
Taken out of context the statement is worse than meaningless, it's a bit of sensationalist garbage used to sell copies.
Who was the translator? What did Hatsumi actually say? What was the class about that day?
He could have been talking about fitness. Or he could have been talking about awareness. Or the willingness to act. Or he could have been talking about how well you must know a technique before teaching it. If you know something so well that you can always kill any student you're teaching that movement, then you know it well enough to teach.
The article makes me laugh too, because it's as much a part of the "goofy caricatures" as anything else in pop culture.
bobster_ice
05-03-2006, 02:33 PM
Why?
I actaully dont know.
Bigshadow
05-03-2006, 03:02 PM
Taken out of context the statement is worse than meaningless, it's a bit of sensationalist garbage used to sell copies.
Who was the translator? What did Hatsumi actually say? What was the class about that day?
He could have been talking about fitness. Or he could have been talking about awareness. Or the willingness to act. Or he could have been talking about how well you must know a technique before teaching it. If you know something so well that you can always kill any student you're teaching that movement, then you know it well enough to teach.
The article makes me laugh too, because it's as much a part of the "goofy caricatures" as anything else in pop culture.
It could also mean know more than your student. It seems that I remember a quote from him where this phrase was attached to a bigger quote where he talked about not revealing everything you know to your students. To me the reason is not totally clear, but I am pretty sure it isn't what it appears to be. Alot can be lost in translation.
Bigshadow
05-03-2006, 03:03 PM
That article makes me laugh.
That is OK. I am always laughing when I train. I believe it is infectious. :D
beau_safken
05-03-2006, 03:06 PM
DAmn....Note to self...Wear l33t ninja armor when in Japan doing a seminar.
shesulsa
05-03-2006, 04:31 PM
DAmn....Note to self...Wear l33t ninja armor when in Japan doing a seminar.
s+0p +h3 4oL sp33k ... 1+s s2p1d
green meanie
05-03-2006, 05:31 PM
s+0p +h3 4oL sp33k ... 1+s s2p1d
Hehehe :rofl:
Shizen Shigoku
07-31-2006, 04:51 PM
Bigshadow: "... It seems that I remember a quote from him where this phrase was attached to a bigger quote where he talked about not revealing everything you know to your students. ..."
I think it was "only teach half of what you know."
The other half they have to learn on their own - would be my interpretation.
CuongNhuka
08-01-2006, 10:48 AM
just the quote (always be able to kill your students) seems a little, flawed. something my sensei says every so often "my job is to make you a better martial artist then me".
Bigshadow
08-01-2006, 10:55 AM
I think it was "only teach half of what you know."
The other half they have to learn on their own - would be my interpretation.
That is my interpretation as well.
Fluffy
08-02-2006, 12:22 AM
Well, that was interesting. I just wanna have fun.......what ever happened to having fun?
Marginal
08-02-2006, 01:41 AM
Depends on how you define fun in that case.
Bigshadow
08-02-2006, 12:04 PM
Well, that was interesting. I just wanna have fun.......what ever happened to having fun?
Budo is always fun! Sometimes painful, but fun, nonetheless. ;)
If your having fun, you learn faster. IMO, that is why soke says "Play". It is serious play though.
IcemanSK
08-02-2006, 12:41 PM
I'm of the opinion that I want my students to be better than I am......Someday. I think we should set the bar high, but maybe not as high as Hatsumi Sensei.
I also agree w/ General Frog. Frogs just wanna have fun!:-partyon:
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