spinning back fist? Do you like to use this?

[still learning]

Hello, The spinning back fist is a flavorite move for us...not for every situtions..but it does work well for sparring so far..

Will someone be able to use this is a real fight? ...possible! We prefer to get the other person moving in side way direction and turn into them with a spinning back fist. (just make sure to follow it up with more moves..)

The spinning back fist does it work for you? ....Aloha

[Hand Sword]

Was always my favorite move.

[masterfinger]

IMO, the spinning back fist can be a very potent weapon. A very long time ago I was sparring with a friend who caught me with one, and it seriously rung my bell. A few minutes later I figured I'd try one myself, and my friend tried to close in and jam me but instead caught an elbow which knocked him out cold. So yeah, I think the spinning back fist works:)

Franco

[green meanie]

Sure. It's not something I like to go out there and plan on using but I've had a couple occasions where I threw a right hand that went wild and off to the left and took me way out of position. Rather than try to pull it back I kept going and used the momentum to load up a spinning back fist using my left hand. Seemed like the fastest way to get back into position and I hit with it more often than not. :)

[Hand Sword]

Yep! Go with the flow.

[green meanie]

:boing2:

[MJS]

Spinning techniques have their place, but they need to be set up properly, to avoid being telegraphed. I've done them in the ring, with success. I've also done them w/o the proper set up and got jammed up.

Mike

[Makalakumu]

I do not like to use them. The reason why is because it means that I'm in trouble. In our art, spinning backfists (and many other spinning techniques) are used when somebody has manuveured behind you. Sparring one on one, this happens every once in a while. With multiples, this happens frequently. The nice thing about using them in this situation is that they tend to flow pretty naturally and if they connect, they can be devestating. The bad thing is that someone got behind you and now you are kind of desperate.

Anyway, good technique to practice, but, no, I don't like to use them because I don't want to be in the position where I'd have to use one.

I don't know how much use they would be for attacking someone in front of you, unless you are going to deliberately turn your back on someone???

[HKphooey]

Love 'em! :)

[Martial Tucker]

I love a spinning back fist. Can't use it more than once or twice, but it can also setup other things...Example: I like to throw a jab that appears to be mis-aimed, towards my opponent's left ear/across his face. This blocks his entire field of view for a moment, which is all it takes to launch into the spinning backfist. This usually works the first time. I might try it one more time, but more likely, once I know he's looking for it, I'll throw the same "errant jab", then immediately fire a spinning back-kick, as I know he's looking for the backfist and protecting his head. For me, anyway....this is "money".

[terryl965]

I agree with everyone else they are great, alot of power but you better hit that target.
Terry

[Bigshadow]

I don't and wouldn't use them. I cannot see any advantage in trying something like that. There are too many negative factors for it be useful in self defense. However, I wouldn't know about it's effectiveness in the ring though.

[rutherford]

I prefer the combat turns I've learned for when somebody gets behind me. It's more of a clearing motion and I think a bit faster and safer. Has the potential to hit somebody trying to grab from behind with an elbo, but really not the main intent.

I'd not use a spinning move with somebody in my forward arc. Good power, but too slow and easily jammed or avoided.

[chinto01]

Most of the replies so far have dealt with the spinning backfist being used in a controlled sparring or ring type situation. Do you think that they would be an effective technique in a street or life and death situation? Seeing as most street fiights end up being messy situations and lack the time needed to set up a technique like this I would think it may put you in even greater danger.

In the spirit of bushido!

Rob

[Makalakumu]

I can see the spinning backfist working as an attack when someone "accidentally" gets behind you or in a multiple attack situation, where one is desperate anyway. I wouldn't want to be in the situation where I'd have to use it that way, but I think that if one ends up in that situation, it would serve a purpose.

[Martial Tucker]

Most of the replies so far have dealt with the spinning backfist being used in a controlled sparring or ring type situation. Do you think that they would be an effective technique in a street or life and death situation? Seeing as most street fiights end up being messy situations and lack the time needed to set up a technique like this I would think it may put you in even greater danger.

In the spirit of bushido!

Rob
Rob, I agree and should have mentioned that in my earlier post. My reference in that post was to sparring. In a street/real fight, my philosophy/style is straightforward, overwhelm, obliterate. I would never say "never", but it is hard for me to imagine myself using any spinning technique on the street.

[IcemanSK]

It is a good weapon. My only concern in using when kickboxing was not getting the distance right & it turning into a spinning elbow. In the ring, a spinning elbow isn't legal. But also, I've seen dislocations of the elbow from a poorly thrown backfist that was properly blocked.

[fireman00]

Love the spinning back fist.... it is VERY utilitarian in that it can be disguised and used in many situations. Because a lot of folks don't like to use the spinning back fist as they have to turn their back and loose sight of their oppponent for a split second.

1.) I like to feint once or twice with the backfist then attack with a lead leg round house or vice versa. 2.) Set it up with a skipping front push kick and with my leg chambered loop up and over the top of their arm with a back fist. 3.) Feint and get them to move "out of range" and before they're finished resetting spin in and pop them.

The nice thing about the back fist is that it can be used to keep their hands up so that you can proceed with kicks to the hogu for points or keep their hands down to block a kick while you attack the head.

Just don't over use it.

[still learning]

Hello, Fliping channel on TV..got a chance to see a professional MMA fighter use the spinning backfist very effectively. Several times too!

This is a very powerful technique, when done quickly..catches the other person off guard. ( "Yes "if the fist do not connect,follow with elbows...)..good point above about kicks to follow...good to remember to do this...Aloha

[bobster_ice]

I like the spinning back fist because it hurts really bad and looks cool if you a spinning hook kick after it.

[Blindside]

Hello, Fliping channel on TV..got a chance to see a professional MMA fighter use the spinning backfist very effectively. Several times too!

Genki Sudo?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6475505840089343630&q=genki+sudo&pl=true[/URL][URL="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2247020872310590706"] (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2600453117665873171&q=genki+sudo&pl=true)

[green meanie]

Damn man, he's nuts. :)

[tshadowchaser]

I don't use them now as often as I once did but like to use then with a back kick
they can be a great technique but youdo leave your backopen and that is never a good thing

[still learning]

Genki Sudo?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6475505840089343630&q=genki+sudo&pl=true (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6475505840089343630&q=genki+sudo&pl=true)

Hello, Thank-you for sharing this...enjoyable to watch this fighter! ..Aloha

[Jonathan Randall]

Well, you're definitely going to feel it if you catch a properly delivered one. However, I stopped spinning, for the most part, years ago. Great technique of opportunity, but with all the cautions UpNorthKyosa mentioned. Not really in my self-defence arsenal - but I'd use it if someone were behind me and I wanted both to pivot to face them as well as strike.

Good thread, Still Learning!

[DeLamar.J]

Hello, The spinning back fist is a flavorite move for us...not for every situtions..but it does work well for sparring so far..

Will someone be able to use this is a real fight? ...possible! We prefer to get the other person moving in side way direction and turn into them with a spinning back fist. (just make sure to follow it up with more moves..)

The spinning back fist does it work for you? ....AlohaThe spinning back fist is a great move that can be used effectively, the problem is that people dont execute the technique properly.

[green meanie]

The spinning back fist is a great move that can be used effectively, the problem is that people dont execute the technique properly.

Care to elaborate?

[Henderson]

Spinning backfist? Nah...not my cup of tea.

Besides, I'd never turn my back on someone if at all possible. They may have Denny's ground skills. :whip:

[Slihn]

Hello, The spinning back fist is a flavorite move for us...not for every situtions..but it does work well for sparring so far..

Will someone be able to use this is a real fight? ...possible! We prefer to get the other person moving in side way direction and turn into them with a spinning back fist. (just make sure to follow it up with more moves..)

The spinning back fist does it work for you? ....Aloha


I like to use it by itself against a rushing fighter (and sometimes in conjunction with other techniques) by side-stepping then executing;it most often connects because by rushing me,my opponet runs himself into the attack.

[tshadowchaser]

I do not see myslef useing it in a street fight but then again one never knows what will happen in a street fight

[KenpoBruce2006]

Been nailed with a few. They are great because they can come off so quickly with little if any warning. My favorite is the lunge back knuckle followed by the spinning back knuckle (not necessarily combined, but they can be). Very effective.

[Robert Lee]

A spin may work ok for point or some ring fights. But I would never think about it for a street fight. As it would put you in a bad position. Even in the ring I would not recomend it. Spin knicks the same. They look pretty but not a good tool to use.