arnisador
08-07-2002, 01:12 AM
What do people think about Tensho? It's a very simple pattern and the techniques seem to be isolated for practice rather than being a sequence meant to be done in self-defense--you wouldn't likely stand stock-still and do a double upward wrist block, followed by a double downward palm block, as a self-defense measure, after all. Nonetheless I always liked it and the "feel" I got from it. I was told it was "old man's Sanchin" but I liked it when I learned it at 21 years old! It screamed kung fu to me.
DKI Girl
08-07-2002, 01:21 PM
I was taught a version of this also and I think they might have used it for some type of qi qong......I know that I always feel my energy moving and feel good after doing Tensho.
dki girl
D.Cobb
08-08-2002, 09:15 AM
The version I know is very "Tai Chi-ish" in nature. Done slowly with a lot of attention to breathing. I will quite often do an extra rep of this kata after an intense class, or a grading, just to calm down a little more.
--Dave
arnisador
08-08-2002, 11:58 AM
Yes, I know just what you mean. It's slow and focused on breathing as I learned it too. I no longer practice karate so I no longer do it but i always liked it.
GojuBujin
08-11-2002, 09:47 PM
Oss,
I've also heard that Tensho is an older man's Sanchin. Tensho is said to take off where Sanchin leaves off. Sanchin is supposed to represent the hard side of Goju, the Go. Tensho represents the Ju, the soft part of Goju. Look closely Tensho contains Kakie (sticky hands) techniques.
Michael C. Byrd
www.inigmasoft.com/goyukai
Battousai
08-12-2002, 09:44 PM
Tensho is my favorite kata:)
I've been taught to do it with extreme tension, resistence sort of thing. For real life, I think that the bunkai within it is quite applicable. Tensho lore states that it comes from white crane boxing, if not directly copied from a white crane boxing school then at least highly influenced by that art.
arnisador
08-13-2002, 12:26 AM
I certainly believe the crane connection.
I was taught to do it with relatively little tension.
Martin h
08-21-2002, 10:13 AM
I love tensho, it is both beautiful and enjoyable to do.
Mas Oyama (founder of kyokushinkai), used to say that it was one of the most important katas to learn for self defense.
By selfdefense, Oyama usualy refered to escapes from wristholds and such "Jujutsu"like techniques.
arnisador
08-21-2002, 11:27 AM
You mean he distinguished self-defense (fom holds) from fighting (with punches)?
RyuShiKan
08-21-2002, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Martin h
I love tensho, it is both beautiful and enjoyable to do.
Mas Oyama (founder of kyokushinkai), used to say that it was one of the most important katas to learn for self defense.
By selfdefense, Oyama usualy refered to escapes from wristholds and such "Jujutsu"like techniques.
On one of the several times I met and spoke with Oyama he described "self-defense" techniques as being for "women".........giving the impression that "real" men didn't need such stuff.
I found that rather odd..........
Martin h
08-21-2002, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by RyuShiKan
On one of the several times I met and spoke with Oyama he described "self-defense" techniques as being for "women".........giving the impression that "real" men didn't need such stuff.
I found that rather odd..........
Not entirely.
The techniques that Oyama termed "self defense" mostly include one and twohanded grabs, sleeve grabs and so on.
These are attacks that usualy are not the initial attacks male vs male, but are common whith overenthusiastic male bastards approaching a woman.
Now, a real MAN ':D:', naturaly solves the problem by using strenght and a good punch, but a lady must first get free from a larger, stronger person.
As a sideline, I could mention that the same techniques from oyamas "selfdefense", is found in a style of jujutsu I once practiced. But that they are concidered unrealistic since noone ever ':rolleyes:' would be stupid enough to attack by grabbing across to your hand, setting him up for a kotegaeshi.
As stated above, I do not agree.
BTW, Im jealous. I never had the privilege to meet Oyama.