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ed-swckf
08-27-2005, 07:05 PM
The egg
KenpoEMT
08-27-2005, 07:19 PM
the chicken or the egg?What!?...I ordered bacon.
Niether the [chicken] nor the egg came first, but evolved through common descent :lol:.
Considering the philisophical ramifications, I am most disturbed. An ultimate cause which cannot be mathematically demonstrated is present in the intimations of this age-old question. I always understood this question to actually be asking, "Is there a God?"
What!?...I ordered bacon.
Niether the nor the egg came first, but evolved through common descent :lol:.
Considering the philisophical ramifications, I am most disturbed. An ultimate cause which cannot be mathematically demonstrated is present in the intimations of this age-old question. I always understood this question to actually be asking, "Is there a God?"
It's much less of a headache if you look at it genetically.
ed-swckf
08-27-2005, 07:27 PM
Why?
Historically eggs existed before chickens
Historically eggs existed before chickens
I meant chicken eggs, dude
ed-swckf
08-27-2005, 07:47 PM
I meant chicken eggs, dudeWell you need to be specific, but i'm still going with egg ancestory over chicken ancestory.
MA-Caver
08-28-2005, 02:23 AM
I think I'll just have the tuna-fish sandwich....
arnisador
08-28-2005, 02:27 AM
Well you need to be specific, but i'm still going with egg ancestory over chicken ancestory.
I gotta agree.
shesulsa
08-28-2005, 02:41 AM
I think I'll just have the tuna-fish sandwich....
Mercury, honey, mercury. Poached salmon, please, with steamed asparagus.
MA-Caver
08-28-2005, 02:50 AM
Mercury, honey, mercury. Poached salmon, please, with steamed asparagus.
Well... umm, errr.... don't salmon swim in the same mercury saturated ocean that the tuna does? :idunno:
How about a nice big juicy T-bone steak... nope (mad-cow disease right?)
Ok starvation. Because nuthing is safe to eat anymore not even aigs. ... hee hee :D
Shu2jack
08-28-2005, 02:50 AM
The egg came first. The chicken didn't exist through out the entire history of the Earth. It probably evolved from another organism. The organism that is the ancestor of the chicken laid the first egg that would hatch what we now know as the modern day chicken. After that, the chicken continued to lay eggs of the modern day chicken.
....I want KFC now.
Simon Curran
08-28-2005, 02:53 AM
How about a nice big juicy T-bone steak... nope (mad-cow disease right?)
Mmmm, steak...
Wonder if I can get one of those for my breakfast
Simon Curran
08-28-2005, 02:54 AM
....I want KFC now.
OK now you're just taunting me, the nearest KFC is 3 hrs away...
So if I set off now I can have it lunch...
Makalakumu
08-28-2005, 09:07 AM
The egg came first. The chicken didn't exist through out the entire history of the Earth. It probably evolved from another organism. The organism that is the ancestor of the chicken laid the first egg that would hatch what we now know as the modern day chicken. After that, the chicken continued to lay eggs of the modern day chicken.
....I want KFC now.
You beat me to it. I use this example to talk to my students. My other job is teaching science.
heretic888
08-28-2005, 10:04 AM
The egg came first. The chicken didn't exist through out the entire history of the Earth. It probably evolved from another organism. The organism that is the ancestor of the chicken laid the first egg that would hatch what we now know as the modern day chicken. After that, the chicken continued to lay eggs of the modern day chicken.
....I want KFC now.
Agreed! :D
The egg came first. The chicken didn't exist through out the entire history of the Earth. It probably evolved from another organism. The organism that is the ancestor of the chicken laid the first egg that would hatch what we now know as the modern day chicken. After that, the chicken continued to lay eggs of the modern day chicken.
That's all I asked for, folks.
arnisador
08-28-2005, 03:33 PM
You beat me to it. I use this example to talk to my students. My other job is teaching science.
Soon they'll make you start teaching the answer to the question, What was intelligently designed first--the chicken or the egg?
Shizen Shigoku
08-28-2005, 04:29 PM
arnisador: "What was intelligently designed first--the chicken or the egg?"
That just made me throw up in my mouth a little. :barf:
Of course the egg came first - birds evolved from dinosaurs, right?
But would you call it a 'chicken egg' before the first chicken hatched out of it, or is it not yet a 'chicken's egg' until it is laid by a chicken?
Corporal Hicks
08-28-2005, 04:46 PM
Both!
arnisador: "What was intelligently designed first--the chicken or the egg?"
That just made me throw up in my mouth a little. :barf:
Of course the egg came first - birds evolved from dinosaurs, right?
But would you call it a 'chicken egg' before the first chicken hatched out of it, or is it not yet a 'chicken's egg' until it is laid by a chicken?
Eww...
I'd call it a chicken egg the moment it contained a chicken.
ed-swckf
08-29-2005, 08:52 AM
Eww...
I'd call it a chicken egg the moment it contained a chicken.So who owns the egg, the chicken inside it or the thing that laid it? See, i'm not sure its actually the chicken's egg.
Rich Parsons
08-29-2005, 09:33 AM
the chicken or the egg?
Light?
:ultracool :idunno: ;)
Makalakumu
08-29-2005, 10:11 AM
So who owns the egg, the chicken inside it or the thing that laid it?
The company who genetically engineered the chicken of course. The egg is a reflection of the mother's genetics and that stuff can be patented.
heretic888
08-29-2005, 03:52 PM
But would you call it a 'chicken egg' before the first chicken hatched out of it, or is it not yet a 'chicken's egg' until it is laid by a chicken?
Personally, I think its just a matter of semantics and the answer will vary from person to person.
kenpochad
08-29-2005, 04:38 PM
The chicken.
was man put on the earth as a baby?
:shrug:
heretic888
08-29-2005, 09:34 PM
The chicken.
was man put on the earth as a baby?
:shrug:
Technically, man probably evolved from a long lineage of ancestral species that ultimately have their physical origins in single-celled organisms that grew out of constituent elements and molecules that make up part of the earth.
So, man wasn't so much "put on" the earth as "grown out of" the earth. Or, something like that.
kenpochad
08-30-2005, 08:14 AM
Technically, man probably evolved from a long lineage of ancestral species that ultimately have their physical origins in single-celled organisms that grew out of constituent elements and molecules that make up part of the earth.
So, man wasn't so much "put on" the earth as "grown out of" the earth. Or, something like that.I don't believe that man came out of the ocean as a single celled organism.
But thats just me
heretic888
08-30-2005, 10:03 AM
I don't believe that man came out of the ocean as a single celled organism.
But thats just me
If you'll actually re-read my post, that is not at all what I was saying.
What I actually said was that man evolved from a long line of ancestral species that ultimately have their origins in single-celled organisms that may or may not have inhabited "the ocean".
So who owns the egg, the chicken inside it or the thing that laid it? See, i'm not sure its actually the chicken's egg.
It doesn't matter who "owns" an egg. Is there a chicken inside? If so, it's a chicken egg.
Personally, I think its just a matter of semantics and the answer will vary from person to person.
Arguments rise and fall over semantics.
arnisador
09-01-2005, 12:18 AM
Arguments rise and fall over semantics.
Michael Palin: I came here for a good argument!
John Cleese: No, you came here for an argument.
Rich Parsons
09-01-2005, 12:26 AM
Michael Palin: I came here for a good argument!
John Cleese: No, you came here for an argument.
Is this the 5 minute or the half an hour? Just want to know before we go on to far.
That is a great act :D
ed-swckf
09-01-2005, 05:39 PM
It doesn't matter who "owns" an egg. Is there a chicken inside? If so, it's a chicken egg.
Yeah but if it was layed by a dinosaur why would that have no bearing on weather or not it was a chicken egg or a dinosaur egg. I mean it is after all the reproductive cell of the mother is it not?
lulflo
09-01-2005, 06:35 PM
Since I have nothing intelligent to say on this one, how about a stab at humor?
"But would you call it a 'chicken egg' before the first chicken hatched out of it, or is it not yet a 'chicken's egg' until it is laid by a chicken?"
Attempt #1 - I dont think a 'chicken egg' has to give birth to be called a 'chicken egg' I think it could be a 'chicken egg' after it has been laid a couple of times.
"So who owns the egg, the chicken inside it or the thing that laid it?"
Attempt #2 - I think most married men know the answer to this one without my prompt, but for clarification - yes the thing that laid it owns it - period.
searcher
09-02-2005, 10:42 AM
Can I get a stack of pancakes with low-carb syrup and a half order of biscuits and gravy with my eggs.
someguy
09-02-2005, 01:01 PM
Define chicken. Define what genetic code is required for it to be a chicken. Heck just define everything then I'll answere anything.
I'll answere the egg came first.
Is this the 5 minute or the half an hour? Just want to know before we go on to far.
That is a great act :D
Palin: This isn't an argument! It's contradiction!
Cleese: No it's not.
ed-swckf
09-03-2005, 07:32 AM
Define chicken. Define what genetic code is required for it to be a chicken. Heck just define everything then I'll answere anything.
I'll answere the egg came first.
Define define.
searcher
09-04-2005, 06:09 PM
Define chicken. Define what genetic code is required for it to be a chicken. Heck just define everything then I'll answere anything.
I'll answere the egg came first.
Somebody get this guy a Webster's.http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif
KenpoEMT
09-04-2005, 09:46 PM
Palin: This isn't an argument! It's contradiction!
Cleese: No it's not.Yes, it is.
:lol: a little python never hurt anyone
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