View Full Version : Pocket sticks, kubotons, koppo...


ginshun
07-14-2005, 10:27 AM
Whatever you want to call them in all their different forms. I was just wondering if anybody here carries one on a regular basis, and also wodering what you guys think of this one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/ginshun/flashlighsmall.jpg

It is a Surefire C2 Centurian with a paracord wrap. I carry it most of the time. Same idea as your basic koppo, but with the added advantage of blinding light, and also not looking like a weapon of any sort.

Grenadier
07-14-2005, 11:32 AM
Sorry, I mis-read your post.

arnisador
07-14-2005, 01:57 PM
How big is the one pictured?

I have carried them from time to time as a keychain, but often find they're just too big to be comfortable in my pocket.

Rich Parsons
07-14-2005, 02:00 PM
I carry pens to operate as a pocket stick. I find they fit in my pocket and I can use them for other reasons such as getting phone numbers ;) , and they are disposable. So, if you loose one, you just grab another one from the pack.

arnisador
07-14-2005, 02:23 PM
"I'm not stealing office supplies--I'm arming myself!"

I have an image of Rambo suiting up for battle...he puts the ammo belt around his chest. He puts the pistol in his holster. He puts the knife in his boot. He puts the ballpoint pen in his breast pocket...

Seriously though, a pen can indeed be a good stabbing weapon. It goes back to the point that we train with plastic knives that we think can stab or cut, but so often in actuality we have a boxcutter (cutting weapon) or a screwdriver or pen (stabbing weapon), or something like that.

searcher
07-14-2005, 03:07 PM
I do not carry one now, but I used to carry a blackjack. They are illegal to carry in my state now so no more for me. At current I am carrying a flashlight and my tac knife. If you get caught with one(a blackjack, kubotan or extendable baton) it can get you some time in the pokey, but with my flashlight nothing can be said to me. I do also have tools with me most of the time. They are very helpful.

Drac
07-15-2005, 07:41 AM
I still carry a Kubotan on duty and use it quite often, mostly when escorting prisoners to my cruiser..I place it between the chains of the handcuffs and not my fingers as some officers do..Off duty I have my car keys on a Pro-Tek Key, another effective device..

silatman
07-15-2005, 08:43 AM
Seems to me that some of the most effective uses of a kubotan is as a pressure point manipulator, your example doesnt look very effective for that application as it doesnt taper into any type of point.
It does look heavy enough to be useful as a punching weapon though.
Not the sort of kubotan that I would choose.

hardheadjarhead
07-15-2005, 11:34 AM
It is a Surefire C2 Centurian with a paracord wrap. I carry it most of the time. Same idea as your basic koppo, but with the added advantage of blinding light, and also not looking like a weapon of any sort.


Surefire flashlights are superb...possibly the best. Their light truly is blinding. I like the idea you have here.

A flashlight is a good little tool for anyone to have on their person.

I was given some beautiful little pocket sticks at the WMAA camp recently, courtesy of Sal Todaro. They were made in Bolivia (as was their woven handbag, which is really nice) and are some sort of exotic hardwood.

I can't think of a martial art that couldn't integrate a pocket stick into their curriculum for self defense. They're easy to use and lend themselves well to techniques we allready practice.


Regards,


Steve

ginshun
07-15-2005, 12:25 PM
How big is the one pictured?

I have carried them from time to time as a keychain, but often find they're just too big to be comfortable in my pocket.

It is a little bit big for the pocket, but not too bad. It has a pocket clip, so when kept at the top of the pocket it is OK.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/ginshun/flashlight1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/ginshun/Flashlight2.jpg

Drac
07-16-2005, 07:04 AM
Surefire flashlights are superb...possibly the best. Their light truly is blinding
I couldn't agree more..I have 2 while on duty..The big one mounted in the cruiser and the little one on my duty rig..

KyleShort
07-17-2005, 07:32 PM
Ginshun,

Do have instructions for making that paracord bracelet? Very cool :)

Also, that flashlight seems awesome (researched it)...but ~$100 is a little steep. Suppose it might be worth it...dunno.