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silatman
06-08-2005, 12:53 PM
Cmon people I want to know what is your favorite technique?

It doesnt have to be the most effective just the one that brings a smile to your face everytime you do it :ultracool

Mine would have to be the rear forearm choke, when you snap that on and you hear that gurgle....ahhhh does it for me.

VSanhodo
06-08-2005, 01:01 PM
Honest go goodness, I dont. I try to not have a favorite, I feel if you do it not only is a strength but a hugh weakness. So, my answer is simply the one that works at the time is my favorite. Heck there have been times when running was my favorite technique or baseball bat or 9mm and yes on occasion I even have had to fight. I cant say I had a favorite even then, I just let it roll and let things happen and was usually ok at the end.


Thanks

San

silatman
06-08-2005, 01:09 PM
I'm sorry I just dont believe you.
Obviously the one that woks at the time is the best one but Im not talking real life here. I mean at the dojo or when your training.
I cant believe that you get the same enjoyment out of practicing your stepping as you do putting on an arm bar or beating the hell out of a bag, pad or partner with a kali stick.
Maybe you could think realhard and repost.

Gemini
06-08-2005, 01:11 PM
Honest go goodness, I dont. I try to not have a favorite, I feel if you do it not only is a strength but a hugh weakness. So, my answer is simply the one that works at the time is my favorite. Heck there have been times when running was my favorite technique or baseball bat or 9mm and yes on occasion I even have had to fight. I cant say I had a favorite even then, I just let it roll and let things happen and was usually ok at the end.


Thanks

SanI agree. I like to focus on perfecting one thing at a time, but once I feel I have it, I change to something else. It's too easy to get caught up into a certain thing because it's your best. Even if it's not the best choice for a given situation. I prefer to work on what I'm not that good at because my goal is to be diverse enough for it not to matter.

FearlessFreep
06-08-2005, 01:16 PM
My favorite technique is the one that works.

Seriously, if I throw a roundhouse and it gets head high and my hups come around with a snap and I hit the target with a snap, that's a sense of 'yeah!'. But the same with a sidekick or a back fist or whatever. When I'm doing takedowns and joint manipulations and my opponent goes down hard and fast under my control, that's my favorite technique

A techniques executed when it just falls together and works is a lot of fun, a technique that a I don't do well...ugh.

ed-swckf
06-08-2005, 01:42 PM
Cmon people I want to know what is your favorite technique?

It doesnt have to be the most effective just the one that brings a smile to your face everytime you do it :ultracool

Mine would have to be the rear forearm choke, when you snap that on and you hear that gurgle....ahhhh does it for me.
hit them. Thats my fave.

VSanhodo
06-08-2005, 02:05 PM
I'm sorry I just dont believe you.
Obviously the one that woks at the time is the best one but Im not talking real life here. I mean at the dojo or when your training.
I cant believe that you get the same enjoyment out of practicing your stepping as you do putting on an arm bar or beating the hell out of a bag, pad or partner with a kali stick.
Maybe you could think realhard and repost.


hmmmmmmmmmm ok let me think Reeeeeeaaallllll HARd Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Ok Ive thought about and your right and I was wrong when I was first in martial arts some 36 years ago I use to really rely on my side kick, rev punch combo. But now that Ive gotten a little older (Note how I said a little) and I hope somewhat wiser, I would have to say I put ofrth every effort to simply allow whatever happens to happen. Now that is not saying I dont do some things worse or better than others but honestly I truly try to not have a favorite. I find those ppl who do have favorites are usually thinking how or what do I have to do to get my favorite technique to work. While they are thinking I hopefully and acting and reacting. Like I said I go through great pains to try to not have a favorite. I am eft handed and owrk on my right side 2 - 3 x more than I do my left just to help me have better balance and to not favor one side. I have even gone os far as to try and learn to write with both hands. By the way so far that has not gone to well, but Im sure over the years it will get better.
I am not trying to avoid your question and feel I am giving you an honest answer to your question. Your welcome to have a favorite its ok by me. I simply choose to put ofrth every effort to not have a weakness by having a favorite.

Thanks

San

VSanhodo
06-08-2005, 02:11 PM
Silatman


I forgot to ask with whom do you study Silat and under what orginazation? I have several friends in the Silat community. I personally I have only studied Silat in a seminar forum and we both know thats not really studying the system. I know Guru J. miller, Vic Dethouras and Guru Paul DeThouras and of course Cliff Stewart. Let me know as I am always interested i learning more about this system.
Thanks again

San

arnisador
06-08-2005, 04:45 PM
For a long time when I first started out, it was the roundhouse kick. I used it constantly.

Now it isn't one technique, but I might have a favorite approach and a cluster of techniques that go with it--I like to get in and grab my opponent, then either grapple him to the ground or knee and elbow him until it's over.

Shane Smith
06-08-2005, 07:45 PM
Zwerchau

YouAgain
06-08-2005, 08:33 PM
Whilst grappling choking them out with my legs in a scissor action.

Or a simple palm to the head.

Shu2jack
06-08-2005, 08:43 PM
I love the "verbally defuse the situation" technique. It has safely ended many conflicts that easily could've turned violent for me.

Sin
06-08-2005, 11:27 PM
for me it's a combo...
Side kick back kick round house hook kick...repeat as needed

FearlessFreep
06-08-2005, 11:34 PM
Same here, I do tend to throw a set of combinations. One I use a lot is roundhouse kick into spinning back kick. It's natural to do, especially, if they evade back on the roundhouse. But I have to do it fast or they just keep backing up. I'll abandon it if it isn't working against a given opponent.

Problem with having a favorite technique is that it may play into someone else's favorite defense. Every opponent is different.

Eldritch Knight
06-08-2005, 11:53 PM
For me it's the standard sidekick. My years of TKD ingrained that into me and I just love connecting with it. I've been trying my best to get out of the habit of overusing it, though, and am working on balancing my kicks out with hand strikes.

Sam
06-09-2005, 12:25 AM
you guys really know how to suck the fun out of a topic.

Stop trying to be the all knowing martial arts masters of the universe -

Yes, we KNOW that you shouldnt rely on one kind of technique
we KNOW that you should do the technique that best fits the situation...

But I do have sympathy for you if deep down inside you dont have a few techniques that make you giggle on the inside when you practice them. Martial arts are fun! for me anyway - I wouldnt be at the studio 6 days a week if I didnt enjoy every minute.

I think too many people here are trying too hard - to sound enlightened, to come across as a master, I don't know. But relax, take your shoes off! Have a little fun!


I don't know, maybe some of you actually have dis-allowed yourself to enjoy some techniques more than others. If this is you, I have much sympathy for you.

I'll probably be dinged for this, but screw it.

And now, back on topic, to answer the question:

I have many favorites. Here are three of them, copied from my notes.

Crash of the Eagle
This technique is used on a person who gets you in a strangle hold from behind. Do a dancer step with your right foot and bring your right arm up as you turn to your attacker to force their arms off of you. Elbow them in the chin with the hand that is still up, back fist them in the nose, chop the artery on the right of their neck, then the left, claw out their eyes, and turn and hammer fist them in the groin.

Spinning From the Sun
For when someone comes at you with a club to hit you over the head. Step towards them, and with your right hand over your left, block up. Grab their arm, sweep down, having them hit their own knee with the club. Step through behind them, take the club from them, still holding their arm hit them above the elbow with it, kick them in the face, and beat them with the club.

Snapping Twig
Snapping twig is used against a person who grabs the collar of your shirt, but has really long arms so you don’t want to use lever on them. Step back with your left foot, and with your left hand at their wrist and your right hand above their elbow, deliver a smack with the heels of your hands. With your right hand, sweep their arm down off you. Do a knuckle rake from their eye diagonally down their face. Step in with your right foot, elbow smash their head wit your right elbow and left hand, and turn and hammer fist to the groin with your right hand.

Marginal
06-09-2005, 01:02 AM
you guys really know how to suck the fun out of a topic.

Stop trying to be the all knowing martial arts masters of the universe -

But I do have sympathy for you if deep down inside you dont have a few techniques that make you giggle on the inside when you practice them. Martial arts are fun! for me anyway - I wouldnt be at the studio 6 days a week if I didnt enjoy every minute.


I still don't have a favorite technique. But then I hate being asked, "What is your favorite book?" (It's Jem and the Holograms: Mischief Makers, but I digress...) I just don't think like that. Not about being Yoda, not about giving the "correct" answer. It's just...

"Oh maaaaann... The reverse punch is sweeeet! Call me reverse punch king!"

Can't do it. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense IMO. Doesn't stand on its own. Few moves do. Like picking a favorite movie, book, three media related objects to take with you if you get stranded on a remote island etc. Any title I'd give you wouldn't really be my favorite. At best it'd be a list or answer cobbled together by frequency of use, or whatever came to mind. Personally, I don't like having to answer questions that have no good answer.

mj-hi-yah
06-09-2005, 01:21 AM
We need to respect the fact that some people may not have a favorite technique. :asian: I know for me it has changed as I've grown in knowledge and experience, although I have, and have had, a lot of favorites. I've always liked Arching Blades and Bow of Compulsion, Flight to Freedom and a bunch more, and I never liked the technique Sleeper until recently, and now I love Sleeper, because I learned a more effective way of doing that technique so now I can make the biggest guy in my school tap out on that. Thanks Atomic Bob! It's awesome! :)

FearlessFreep
06-09-2005, 01:23 AM
I think too many people here are trying too hard - to sound enlightened, to come across as a master, I don't know. But relax, take your shoes off! Have a little fun

As I've mentioned before in a few sparring threads in the TKD forum, I'm pretty new at all this so I don't even know really what I can do well or not, much less what I like to do. Everytime I do something well, I like it, when I don't, I don't. I have some things that work better against some of my sparring partners than others, so I just like what works.

It's like asking musicians "what's your favorite scale, what's yourfavorite mode?" Most just don't think like that.


Spinning From the Sun

For what it's worth, we do something similar, but...assuming they attack with the right hand, if your left hand is in front of your right when you block, you can slide the hand down and apply upward pressure with the ridge-hand edge of your hand up into the tricept as you pull down with the left hand. Very painful and makes them want to bend their arm for you as you push it behind them

Jonathan Randall
06-09-2005, 01:46 AM
Cmon people I want to know what is your favorite technique?

It doesnt have to be the most effective just the one that brings a smile to your face everytime you do it :ultracool

Mine would have to be the rear forearm choke, when you snap that on and you hear that gurgle....ahhhh does it for me.
Depends...

Self-Defence
1. Run
2. Run
3. Failing 1 & 2, palm heel strikes, low level kicks, knife edge strikes.

Sparring
1. Side kick
2. Boxer's jab
3. Right cross

I personally feel that for self-defence, at least, having a few favourite, well practiced techniques is great. If avoidance or escape fail, you don't want even the instant of hesitation that can come from selecting from among a dozen possible techniques under the stress of a real life attack.

Shu2jack
06-09-2005, 02:31 AM
I don't think people who are saying that they don't have a favorite technique are trying to be cool or sound wise.

Some people simply don't pick or care for favorties.

For some it is a philosophy thing.

For me, I used to have favorite techniques until my sparring partners and opponents would catch on and develop effective defenses against certain techniques of mine. I have a good friend whom I used to spar with all the time and he would know exactly what technique I would throw and when I was going to throw it so his block was already there before my foot made contact. We trained together so much we could just read each other. From that point I didn't bother to pick out favortie techniques, focus on certain movements over others, or let myself get giggly over certain attacks.

That is not to say I don't tend to use certain attacks more than others. Some techinques just have a higher chance of working and I will use those more often. They are not favorites, it is just logic. It is the same thing when I work on self-defense techinques. I don't pick favorites, I pick those most likely to work and would be most useful in a conflict.

Simon Curran
06-09-2005, 02:42 AM
Personally I wouldn't say I have a particular favourite (although I do understand your point Sam, and some people maybe could do with lightening up a bit) but there are a number of techniques that give me the warm tinglies 'cos I get to take advantage of my strengths...

striker
06-09-2005, 02:55 AM
Guntings, Guntings, Guntings!!!!!Gotta admit- If I know were going to learn limb destruction I smile LOTS :supcool:

Kenpokaratemom
06-09-2005, 03:02 AM
Just from a moms point of view- I really enjoy five swords. But my son is only an orange belt so my view may change as he gets further along.:)

MA-Caver
06-09-2005, 03:11 AM
I have to agree with those who said anything that works is a favorite technique. Not everything is going to work everytime. Some situations won't allow you to use your favorite technique.
"uhh excuse me could you instead of grabbing me around my throat grab me around the middle because I can more effectively get out of that than the other way... besides :rolleyes: it's my favorite technique"
"Aww gee sorry there umm yeah sure umm ... like this??"

If I can I'll try for what I've found to be effective for me is a fast four fisted strike to the face with the fourth hit going straight to the throat. This isn't always effective but it has worked on several occasions. But being that as it may this one :btg: usually works out if you're fast enough.

bignick
06-09-2005, 03:36 AM
For the sheer fun of it? In TKD I love doing a nice 540 Spinning Heel Kick, Hook Kick, Backspin...whatever you want to call it. In judo I love dropping overconfident brown and black belts with a good Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi or De Ashi Barai. They see the yellow belt and assume I'm a beginner, instead of training consistently for almost the last three years. I remember one day in randori, I was going against a brown belt and we know each other and each other's skill level. For the last couple classes we'd been working on getting past the opponents arms when they try to hold you out. And this was one of those rare times when you see something and it clicks right away and works....either that or I got lucky...but I dropped him with the most beautiful harai goshi I'd ever thrown. Complete ju...perfect kuzushi...slipped right in and BAM!!! The guy was about my size and hit hard...

The worst part....not a single soul saw it...
Like the fish that got away..

silatman
06-09-2005, 05:05 AM
[QUOTE=Samantha]you guys really know how to suck the fun out of a topic.

Stop trying to be the all knowing martial arts masters of the universe -

At last somebody that understands.
All I meant with this post was what makes you smile... something that is fun to do and it doesn't matter if the technique wont take out a five year old.
I couldn't care less if you would never use it in a confrontation only that it brings a smile to your face when you perform it.
Personly even though the choke is my fav not once have I even attempted it in combat BUT that wasn't what I was asking for.
Surely I'm not the only person who trains for some semblence of enjoyment.

Simon Curran
06-09-2005, 05:13 AM
Surely I'm not the only person who trains for some semblence of enjoyment.
No, check my other post:wink2:

masterfinger
06-09-2005, 06:00 AM
The ol' ROSHAMBO! :btg:

Simon Curran
06-09-2005, 06:34 AM
The ol' ROSHAMBO! :btg:"I'll kick you, as hard as I can, sqwaah, in da nuts"...

(Cartman is my role model)

Gemini
06-09-2005, 10:14 AM
I'll probably be dinged for this:snipe2:


HAHAHAHA! You're right. Now THAT was fun!
My new favorite technique..."The snipe"

:rofl:

btw. Never said it wasn't fun. It's ALL fun. :boing1:

Aikikitty
06-09-2005, 12:07 PM
My favorite technique is definitly Nikyo. I don't know--maybe I was really surprised when my sensei did it on me for the first time. I enjoy doing it and get the giggles everytime it's done on me. :idunno: :erg: :D

:-partyon: Hey, this is my 100th post! :-partyon:

Robyn :asian:

mj-hi-yah
06-09-2005, 12:09 PM
Congratulations on your MT black belt! :-partyon:

mj-hi-yah
06-09-2005, 12:19 PM
Just from a moms point of view- I really enjoy five swords. But my son is only an orange belt so my view may change as he gets further along.:)Welcome to MT kenpokaratemom. :wavey: Five Swords is an awesome technique! You have a good eye! Have you signed up for lessons yet? That's how many of us moms got started, by watching!


No worries Silatman I think everyone here understands where you are coming from. :) Some people just have different ways of getting that warm and fuzzy feeling about what they do in martial arts. I know there are lots of people in my school that have that one favorite technique, and we will say things like, "that's Joe's technique", or, "that's Bob's move!" Usually it's something that they like because it works off their strengths like Simoncurran mentioned!

MJ :asian:

DeLamar.J
06-10-2005, 12:48 AM
Spinning cresent kick. :-partyon:

FearlessFreep
06-10-2005, 12:52 AM
Hey, I'm going into a tourney Saturday and I hurt my knee last weekend while training, so some of my kicking techniques are not going to be available....(I'm right legged...my right knee is hurting...right legged roundhouse kicks jar up my knee a bit)

MJS
06-10-2005, 12:56 AM
I guess I'd have to say that I'm in the category of whatever works. Ultimately, its going to depend on the situation at the time, but it could be anything from a low kick to the knee or groin, to a palm or eye jab to the face, to an actual SD tech as some have mentioned.

Mike

Silat Student
06-10-2005, 01:52 AM
I am still in the early stages of learning PSP (I am moving rather slowly unfortunately) but I love our Foot entries, something about the way they lead so easily into sweeps makes me grin.

VSanhodo
06-10-2005, 08:28 AM
Well first and foremost let me thank silatman for taking the time to send me infor on your system of Silat. I always enjoy learning. second let me apologize to everyone. Seems I posted a comment recieved several private post from memebers who indicated they were offended by my comment about not having a favorite technique. I realy do understand what Silatman is asking but I do stick by my post. Now Silatman let me say up front, though Ive never met you I have nothing but based on the content of your post, I have nothing but the utmost respect for you. The following is not meant to offend you. It is however meant to offend those person who have nothing better to do with their time than to send me private messages and complain to me about my beliefs.

OK, You want a favorite technique, here are 3 that those of you who sent me private mesages probably already use and if not please feel free to print this page and use it for future ref.

1) If you are attacked, Drop down to the ground on you hand and knees, please be careful to not damage your pretty pink pants and lovely pink shirts. Next begin crying and continue to do so for at least 30 mins with anyluck you willbe in a low lying area and if you cry enough you might just drown the attacker.

2) If you are attacked, Turn around very very quickly bend over and grab your ankles, You are presenting a part of your anatomy that has probably taken so much abuse that it wouldnt feel and pain from the attack anyway.

3) If you have a litle distance you can always throw objects at your opponet, Now ture m not sure how well pink cotton balls will work but hey its worth the effort.

Anymore private post? If you have something to ask or say please just stand up in the room and saywhat you have to say, Dont be scared. some of the post were quite venomious and not necessary at all, kinda like my post. dont be such candy butts, I respect your views and post andhoneslty cant figure out why someof you had a problme with my post and am even more troubled as to why you couldnt just post in public?

SIlat, I know two wrongs dont make a right and to you and only to you I apologize for this post, You are a good fellow. SORRY

mj-hi-yah
06-10-2005, 11:03 AM
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Loki
06-13-2005, 10:56 AM
My favorite technique is the one against two armed attackers (stick and knife) because it's the most thought provoking and allows for a very high degree of improvisation.

~ Loki

Drifter
06-13-2005, 06:33 PM
I've gotta go with Leaping Crane.

Everything about that technique just feels right to me.

Paul B
06-13-2005, 07:34 PM
I dunno...I really like all of our techniques. When done with a nice snapping motion they always bring a smile to my face.

That being said...There are some "motions" in technique that I really enjoy. I greatly enjoy the challenge presented by dealing with multiples in the Dojang...stepping,timing,evasion,leading,throwing, shielding... these are a few of my favorite things....:)

mj-hi-yah
06-13-2005, 07:53 PM
I've gotta go with Leaping Crane.

Everything about that technique just feels right to me.That's a fun technique for me too! :)