Street fight

[Oleg]

Have you ever used your Marital Arts fighting skills on the street?

Can you tell us more about it?

[Bammx2]

As for actual traditional techniques,not since I got the snot kicked out of me 4 months after I got my first BB.

I have,and still do, use more of the concepts adapted to the physical techniques than the traditional alone.

But I will say,after all my years in the security fields....
Nothing stops an attacker in a dead run better than a well placed reverse punch!http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[redfang]

Sure, but nothing fancy. Simple seems to work best in a real fight. A solid punch, a quick slip or block and counter. Grappling skills are great, at the very least knowing how not to get taken down.

[arnisador]

Yup. Three muggers, one with a knife.

Lots of other threads about this; you might use Search. Of course, starting a new thread for people who joined since the last one is quite reasonable too!

[ChineseKempoJerry]

I have been unfortunate to use some of my training. Funny thing is as a security officer I never had to use more than some joint manipulation holds for restraining purposes (thinking that was all I probably would need).

I was at a bar (go figure) and had some gentlemen that insisted on starting some trouble (no thanks to some wives with us). We left our places and walked away from these men three times! I felt (not sure how accurate my feelings were at the time) like they were going to take it over the line, so in less than a split moment; punch, elbow, backfist, and reverse punch later, three guys are running out and I am waiting for security to come find me on the dance floor. It took them about 2 minutes to find me (was not hiding as the owner of the bar is a fraternity brother of mine) to escort me out of the esablishment. I would like to say not my best judgement and do not wish the experience on anyone. The only thing I can say is that I did it in front of an American Kenpo sylist (I practice Chinese Kempo) and he got to see how training takes over in these kind of situations.

I would like to say that walking away would always be the best option and I felt like a loser for what happened. I don't know whatever happend to the guy I unloaded on and only hope the best for him.

Keep up your training as you never know what is going to happen.

Best Regards,

Jerry

[hwarang]

last time i got in a fight was at a party with drinking... i see a trend lol but it was a with a friend and i didnt really want to hurt him, but he is a lineman for my highschool varsity football team so he could demolish me if i didnt take him out. Luckily im advanced fro my rank in hapkido because im gonna work at my dojo soon so they teach me sweet stuff. I ended up doing a spinning twist the wrist movement (common in my art i dont know about the other ones) and then proceeded to hold him down with my knee on the back of his neck till he passed out.. i then went out and got laid but thats a different story

-thee kevin

[hammer]

mmmmh!! No never. I would not admit to it, either way. Hint!

[Sam]

...because im gonna work at my dojo soon so they teach me sweet stuff. You make it sound as if they teach you the best techniques because you are going to teach, and are holding back things from other students.

I certianly hope that is not the case, because as my friend would say,

"That ***** just MESSED up."

[BigCat63]

A few months back I had a confrontation outside of a McDonalds with an insanely fat guy. We both tried to go out the door at the same time which wasnt happening due to his extraordinary girth. I said excuse me politely and he replied with a profanity laced tirade. I advised him to switch to decaf and he completely lost it. He began screaming at me and coming forward so I backpedalled and began to mock him. I persisted in the mocking as he with things like "dont have a heart attack" and "the earth shakes when you try and run like that". He got madder and madder and was really trying to catch me. Then his sweatpants began to fall down and I started laughing. Blubber boy is chasing me around holding his pants up with one hand and I am hysterical with laughter, the more this went on the harder I laughed. Finally his buddy grabbed him and told him to get in the car.

This could have easily ended up being a brawl, and on one level I have always been very curious to test my skills in the street. However my choice to simply create distance and stay away from a very slow and immobile blob was a direct result of my training. I felt I did what my Instructor would have wanted (aside from the mocking) and in hindsight am glad this stupid incident over nothing didnt escalate any further.

[Bester]

You make it sound as if they teach you the best techniques because you are going to teach, and are holding back things from other students.
Instructors in most schools get special training ops, though the details vary from simply extra time to new techniques. The most common is "how to teach" lessons, though I've heard it said "all the fun stuff is after black belt".

It's a progression, each new step builds on the earlier. If you don't know the basics, you can't do the "fun stuff".

[Mark L]

last time i got in a fight was at a party with drinking... i see a trend lol but it was a with a friend and i didnt really want to hurt him, but he is a lineman for my highschool varsity football team so he could demolish me if i didnt take him out. Luckily im advanced fro my rank in hapkido because im gonna work at my dojo soon so they teach me sweet stuff. I ended up doing a spinning twist the wrist movement (common in my art i dont know about the other ones) and then proceeded to hold him down with my knee on the back of his neck till he passed out.. i then went out and got laid but thats a different story

-thee kevin
Your profile indicates less than a year of training and you're causing your friends to pass out with a knee to the back of the neck? At a drinking party? What did you do then (besides the ridiculous reference to gettting laid)? Do you know what to do with an unconcious victim? Was your teacher proud of you?

This is not an impressive story at all. If true, you exercised quite poor judgement. Sounds like you're many, many lessons away from being qualified to teach.

[searcher]

I have used it on rare occasions, but hated being forced to have to use it. I should have recognized the signs earlier and found a different way to resolve the problems leading to such acts. It is never any fun to have to fight outside of the school. Iwould much rather discuss the situationa and difuse.

[chris...]

recently
first, nightclub: 2-on-1 guys brawling and moving at fast pace towards me side step, side step
second, pub/concert: i just had to do something there was a trouble maker on the dance floor annoying the **** outta ppl, looked like he was trying to pick fights with his friends who wrnt interested, after i notice him being warned, i waited for security to come by again, provoked him, grab, twist, goodbye. my gf had to work that night after the concert so i didnt get laid

[searcher]

[QUOTE=Samantha]You make it sound as if they teach you the best techniques because you are going to teach, and are holding back things from other students.
QUOTE]


I am hoping to not get this post off subject, but I am hoping to get some input on this subject that you brought up.

I have been teaching for several years and I am one of those messed up instructors that you made mention of in your post. I do hold back information from some of my students. As their instructor I have to decide if or when they are ready for certain things. It is not like we, as instructors, want to have to do this but more often than not we are forced to. I made a concious decision to do this many years ago. It has proven to be the best thing I could have done. When certain students are not capable or are not responsible enough to handle certain skills then I deny them those skills. This line of thought may seem to be not right to everyone, but it is the decision of each individual instructor to decide who gets what information.

As you train more and maybe one day become an instructor you will understand what I mean. As all of the other instructors here already understand.

[FearlessFreep]

Hey, shouldn't we all just put that in our profile information

"Hi, my name is Jay O'Connor, I've been in three street fights, one road rage, and a bar brawl"

[47MartialMan]

I had. way different than what one will expect.


But then again, we train-strangely.

[GuruJim1]

My answer is yes. I have used my fighting art in real life fights. As a Police Officer I can't just walk away from the fight. When I say, "Your under arrest", and they say, "Like hell I am" the fight is on. I teach Defensive Tactics, and Less-Lethal Tactics to Security, Correction, and Police Officers. I have used pain compliance strikes, joint locking, and grappling skills. I wouldn't do a full jump spinning kick, but I would do a well placed knee or elbow strike with a takedown into a cuffing position. I do live by one moto, "Bring'em in alive".

[Knarfan]

last time i got in a fight was at a party with drinking... i see a trend lol but it was a with a friend and i didnt really want to hurt him, but he is a lineman for my highschool varsity football team so he could demolish me if i didnt take him out. Luckily im advanced fro my rank in hapkido because im gonna work at my dojo soon so they teach me sweet stuff. I ended up doing a spinning twist the wrist movement (common in my art i dont know about the other ones) and then proceeded to hold him down with my knee on the back of his neck till he passed out.. i then went out and got laid but thats a different story

-thee kevinAre you sure that he wasn't passed out after he just got laid & it was then that you put your knee on his neck ? You sound like your full off **** Edited to conform to MT's profanity Filter:whip: You then went out & got laid WOW thats really cool !!!! Did you get in anymore fights that night?

P.S. just having some fun :-partyon:

Frank

[Bester]

[QUOTE=Samantha]You make it sound as if they teach you the best techniques because you are going to teach, and are holding back things from other students.
QUOTE]


I am hoping to not get this post off subject, but I am hoping to get some input on this subject that you brought up.

I have been teaching for several years and I am one of those messed up instructors that you made mention of in your post. I do hold back information from some of my students. As their instructor I have to decide if or when they are ready for certain things. It is not like we, as instructors, want to have to do this but more often than not we are forced to. I made a concious decision to do this many years ago. It has proven to be the best thing I could have done. When certain students are not capable or are not responsible enough to handle certain skills then I deny them those skills. This line of thought may seem to be not right to everyone, but it is the decision of each individual instructor to decide who gets what information.

As you train more and maybe one day become an instructor you will understand what I mean. As all of the other instructors here already understand.
You evil monster you. How dare you hold back techniques. You should give them all out, right from the beginning. Never mind the fact that there are those incapable of taking responsibility for their own actions.

[Rich Parsons]

Have you ever used your Marital Arts fighting skills on the street?

Can you tell us more about it?


Yes lots of times.

Walking away.

Letting them call me every name in the book as they walk away, i.e. escorting them out calmly and giving them room.

Physical countact

Weapons: Sticks, bats, golf clubs, cars, trucks, glass, belts, knives, guns, . . ., and more used against me, and I used some back, (* No guns in return *)

Search as Arnisador stated, you will find other threads, with my discussions, including those about dealing with the court system as well.

:asian:

[hwarang]

You make it sound as if they teach you the best techniques because you are going to teach, and are holding back things from other students.

I certianly hope that is not the case, because as my friend would say,

"That ***** just MESSED up."
nah dude its not like that at all they have a order that they teach stuff in which i was on until he offered me a job , now they teach me ALL the time thats whyat i mean im there ALL the time so i learn ALL the time so i get alot more in then the people thatt show up a day or two

[hwarang]

Your profile indicates less than a year of training and you're causing your friends to pass out with a knee to the back of the neck? At a drinking party? What did you do then (besides the ridiculous reference to gettting laid)? Do you know what to do with an unconcious victim? Was your teacher proud of you?

This is not an impressive story at all. If true, you exercised quite poor judgement. Sounds like you're many, many lessons away from being qualified to teach.
first off .. i wasnt drunk, second off my uncle is a cop so its not like my teacher talk me that, he just showed me how to get out ofthe way of a punch and put someone down, and third i have my card in CPR and Defibrilation, so even IF he did pass out he would of been fine thank you very much

ps: just because ive been taking formal classes for a half year means nothing about beforre that ive always been physically active and grew up with 2 older brothers i can look out for myself

[chris...]

my uncle is a cop so its not like my teacher talk me that, he just showed me how to get out ofthe way of a punch and put someone down
they teach me sweet stuff. I ended up doing a spinning twist the wrist movement (common in my art now im confused, did you use sweet stuff or real life stuff

card in CPR and Defibrilationthats very usfull, even without the defib machine

[47MartialMan]

Are you sure that he wasn't passed out after he just got laid & it was then that you put your knee on his neck ? You sound like your full off **** Edited to conform to MT's profanity Filter:whip: You then went out & got laid WOW thats really cool !!!! Did you get in anymore fights that night?

P.S. just having some fun :-partyon:

Frank
Aw, let the "kid" have his fanatasies

[47MartialMan]

first off .. i wasnt drunk, second off my uncle is a cop so its not like my teacher talk me that, he just showed me how to get out ofthe way of a punch and put someone down, and third i have my card in CPR and Defibrilation, so even IF he did pass out he would of been fine thank you very much

ps: just because ive been taking formal classes for a half year means nothing about beforre that ive always been physically active and grew up with 2 older brothers i can look out for myself
So from all of this previous wisdom, why take up martial arts?

[hwarang]

because it intrests me ... but yea i didnt hurt him its not wehat you guys are making it out to be if i didnt do something he was gonna **** me up real bad its not like i was looking for a fight

[Knarfan]

Aw, let the "kid" have his fanatasieshttp://martialtalk.com/forum/images/smilies/coolyellow.gif LOL !

[47MartialMan]

because it intrests me ... but yea i didnt hurt him its not wehat you guys are making it out to be if i didnt do something he was gonna **** me up real bad its not like i was looking for a fight
You should have 360 kicked him...:erg:

[Sam]

my words were slightly twisted... I didn't say that there weren't some people who shouldnt be taught some things... but as a general rule I think you should teach what you know unless you have a reason not to... But reading the comments thay hwarang has made its a moot point anyway. I have no reason to believe anything he's said at all anymore.

[47MartialMan]

Youthful Exuberance

[Sam]

"Full of unrestrained enthusiasm or joy"

???

what are you going on about?

[47MartialMan]

"Full of unrestrained enthusiasm or joy"

???

what are you going on about?
Speaking of hwarang's posts.

[BruceCalkins]

Ive had to use it on the street mort times than I would like to remember. I moved around alot do to my Step Fathers profession and was always the New Kid on the block... My Martial Arts training has saved my back side more times than I like. I try to Walk away or talk away Like I'm sure most good martial artist do but I held Jobs in Security in Clubs and different venues and was forced to defend myself several times. Also I work as a Professional Body Guard and Executive Security so there are times on the job that people like to get near a client or during shows getting on stage and someties things get out of hand.

[hammer]

BruceCalkins,


My Martial Arts training has saved my back side more times than I like
Mate no offense I find this funny, You have had your a#s served to ya!! with all your Martial arts training.( LOL)

All good
Cheers

[OC Kid]

I have used it before and have been successful. However I feel now looking back that I failed as a MA in using it. There could have been other ways of dealing with the situation.
The most success I have had is when both of us were able to go home to our friends and family with a story to tell.

[CMS]

I don't know if it qualifies as "fighting skills," but I've used my Ukemi-waza many times on the streets. (Usually in the winter, when it's icy). It's the most useful thing I've learned in the martial arts. It's a shame it's not taught as commonly as it used to be. Gravity is a lot more agressive than most people, and ruthless too.

[47MartialMan]

I have used it before and have been successful. However I feel now looking back that I failed as a MA in using it. There could have been other ways of dealing with the situation.
The most success I have had is when both of us were able to go home to our friends and family with a story to tell.The best success either remaining calm and not get into physical conflict, or not being there in the first place.

The "blessing" is able to go home to our friends and family with a story to tell.

[FearlessFreep]

From http://www.fudebakudo.com/en/gallery_ukemi.html

http://www.fudebakudo.com/graphics/gallery_ukemi_600_x_450.gif

[47MartialMan]

I like the part of the "Shaolin Feather Fall"