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TallAdam85
04-27-2005, 10:42 PM
today in this high tech world it is very hard for people to have sealth. they have everything from motion lights to video cameras has this change the sealth training schools do? just wonder cause i was out side in the wood by my friends's house went out to scare him but when i did a motion light turn on and he seen me and laughed

Grey Eyed Bandit
04-28-2005, 05:30 AM
Can you see the ninja? Of course not. That proves he is there.

Andrew Green
04-28-2005, 09:48 AM
Modern stealth would mean being able to get around hi-tech stuff.

So Soon we will have script kiddies claiming black belts in ninjitsu ;)

Cryozombie
04-28-2005, 02:04 PM
Its always been my take that a lot of the "Stealth" and "Invisibility" that they practiced, wasnt being unseen, it was being unnoticed.

See the difference?

So high-tech gizmos may not make that much difference, in most of those circumstances.

My take on it... The Ninja wasnt neccessarily sneaking past guards into camps and hiding behind a bush so he could overhear the plans of the enemy... she was working in the tea-house, diligently playing her role, and opening and closing the door, while keeping her ears open when she served the enemy in her disguise as a simple peasent serving girl.

Andrew Green
04-28-2005, 02:14 PM
Its always been my take that a lot of the "Stealth" and "Invisibility" that they practiced, wasnt being unseen, it was being unnoticed.

Hey!

No bringing reality into a Ninja discussion!

I want Hollywood style running around in black with smoke bombs and blow darts!

But yes, that is true. Modern "ninja" behaviour is people that just walk into a office in the middle of the work day, pick some stuff up and walk out, appearing casual and like that is what they are supposed to be doing and never getting so much as a double take.

The Kai
04-28-2005, 02:57 PM
You mean the smoke and the dissappearing ain't real?? Geepers any one want to by my Steven Hayes Books..


You want Stealth training?? Join the army

Shogun
04-28-2005, 05:19 PM
You want Stealth training?? Join the armyYeah, the USA Army death toll is like, 1400 sine last may or something like that. No thanks. I am draft registered. thats good enough.
Steven K. Hayes did a "neat" little Documentary on Discovery that was amusing, and for the most part, kinda true. He disguised himself as a cameraman/cleaner/handyman, etc and got the bad/good guy. The Navy SEALS just burst through the door and grabbed him. if it was a video game they woulda been blown up by wall mines. LOL.

as for the first post, one day me and my friend snuck over to the neighbor's and disabled/removed their security lights. it was fun.

Mountain Kusa
04-28-2005, 08:12 PM
Very Funny

AnimEdge
04-28-2005, 11:34 PM
Was that hayes in the documentory? Some of that stuff though a bit interesting was a bit far fetched but hey who knows :P

I agree with Techno on the stealth aspect but in the "sneaking" around kind we do drills on in class which is amusing becouse everyones knees or feet pop :P thus giving us away :P, we manly go over the foot work of walking crawling going prone ect ect

Shinkengata
04-29-2005, 10:28 AM
I used stealth to steal a certain type of plant(hehe) that someone in my neighborhood was growing when i was a young teen. Does that count for Ninjery Ninjaness?:ninja:

Satt
04-29-2005, 10:37 AM
I just snuck out of bed without waking up my wife!!! SWEET!!!

Cryozombie
04-29-2005, 11:37 AM
Bah, Im one up on all of you,

I have my boss convinced i know what I am doing.

Shogun
04-29-2005, 07:19 PM
Techopunk - 1

everyone else - 0

AnimEdge
04-30-2005, 09:52 PM
http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/oc.html

check that out

Nightstalker
05-02-2005, 08:05 PM
I'd just throw ninja stars at the sensors and move in

Cryozombie
05-02-2005, 08:23 PM
http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/oc.html

check that outI posted links to the Videos on that site here a while back, Its a great concept, the problem with it is it requires a ton of external equipment set up ahead of time to facilitate the projection of the rear image onto the special cloth that is used to display the "invisibility"

It would be cool to have at the house for parties tho. And think of the application for scaring the hell out of rugrats at Halloween... It would make the ULTIMATE predator costume!

Tgace
05-02-2005, 08:29 PM
http://www.infowars.com/articles/science/real_cloak_invisibility.htm

ginshun
05-03-2005, 01:37 PM
I agree with Techno on the stealth aspect but in the "sneaking" around kind we do drills on in class which is amusing becouse everyones knees or feet pop :P thus giving us away :P, we manly go over the foot work of walking crawling going prone ect ect
That was the first part of class last night. Stupid cracking toes.

Shinkengata
05-03-2005, 02:30 PM
I really don't think there's anything terribly mystical about straight forward stealth. It's just learning timing(when to move, when not to move), to keep quiet while walking on multiple types of terrain, use of cover and shadow for hiding, appropriate colored/patterned clothing, and things like that. Use of distractions, cover noises(a car driving by, machinery, etc..).

But that's just my opinion.

Shogun
05-03-2005, 05:25 PM
I am native american, and grew up hunting, mostly archery. to me, stealth is still about going unnoticed rather than unseen. I have had deer look right at me, and just not care. the reason? I had masked almost all odors of my human self , I didnt carry myself in a threatening manner, I didnt wear bright orange (deer arent completely colorblind, they can see orange) and I just didnt look like someone they should worry about. if you can blend into an evironment like you are supposed to be there, thats stealth.

Shinkengata
05-03-2005, 10:12 PM
I am native american, and grew up hunting, mostly archery. to me, stealth is still about going unnoticed rather than unseen. I have had deer look right at me, and just not care. the reason? I had masked almost all odors of my human self , I didnt carry myself in a threatening manner, I didnt wear bright orange (deer arent completely colorblind, they can see orange) and I just didnt look like someone they should worry about. if you can blend into an evironment like you are supposed to be there, thats stealth.
Dude, you are SO gonna get shot if you're hunting on land that other people hunt on also. No orange is dangerous.

ginshun
05-04-2005, 11:27 AM
Dude, you are SO gonna get shot if you're hunting on land that other people hunt on also. No orange is dangerous.

Nobody wears orange bowhunting. Not that I have ever seen anyway. I know that I don't.

Shinkengata
05-04-2005, 03:16 PM
Yeah i know orange isn't normally worn during bowhunting, but Shogun didn't say whether he was bowhunting or gunhunting. Sorry for the assumption.

Shogun
05-07-2005, 12:26 AM
well, I said mostly archery. in this fine country, archery and gun can not be used at the same time during hunting season. I dont hunt anyore with a gun. its cheap. 300 yards away....point and shoot. licenses cost like 60 dollars.

Bigshadow
05-09-2005, 01:54 PM
Bah, Im one up on all of you,

I have my boss convinced i know what I am doing.
Hahaha! I have one on that. I have a boss convinced that I am actually working! :ultracool

AnimEdge
05-12-2005, 12:29 AM
http://www.infowars.com/articles/science/real_cloak_invisibility.htm
Interesting how theres a long post about the american version which like counters light and a like short post on how the japanese version projects whats behind it, hmm, and on the need of all the eqiupment you could probly eventually fit into like a trunk for a car, or in a plane or tank or what have you