You know ...... sneak attadks - tackles at odd times..... push them around a little extra.... to condition them to what could happen on the street and not be so gun shy.

Agree ......... Disagree

:asian:

:angel: Bet you are a riot to live with Dennis!

Hang on a second .... after thinking this over, I realized I do this to my husband all the time and he is none the worse for wear. ;)

Now I can explain to him that I am conditioning him for what could happen on the street, and that now he will not be so gun shy.

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

You know ...... sneak attadks - tackles at odd times..... push them around a little extra.... to condition them to what could happen on the street and not be so gun shy.

Agree ......... Disagree

:asian:

I think sneak attacks would be great for Women AND Men.

I've always thought that surprise grabs and attacks should be part of training. Someone grabs you from behind. "WHAT DO YOU DO"??? It is one thing to learn a technique over and over again. But can you POP it off when suddenly confronted by an attack?

Of course there is always a danger that the "attacker" could get him or herself injured in such practise, but some rules should apply. ie be prepared for an attack while in the school BUT remember where you are, and try not to kill the person.

dot
:asian:

P.S. sneak attacks in the home can provide a whole other kind of workout!!! Training can have it's "pleasurable" side too. ;)
*sigh* I miss sneak attacks. :(

I use sneak attacks all the time. I'll wlak up behind one of the girls, grab her pony tail and drag her all over the place. She finally started responding. Don't get me wrong, I do this to every one, not just the women. A good example was last week I was sparring Stick Dummy and we decided to attack the two women sparring next to us. The one he attacked defended herself and the one I attacked never saw me comming. She "screamed like a girl" (her words, not mine) then she counter attacked. We all had a good laugh, but it proves a point.

Originally posted by KenpoGirl


P.S. sneak attacks in the home can provide a whole other kind of workout!!! Training can have it's "pleasurable" side too. ;)
*sigh* I miss sneak attacks. :(

My wife just started training a couple of months ago. It makes for....interesting....home kenpo...aw....training.:D :D :D

Originally posted by Zoran



My wife just started training a couple of months ago. It makes for....interesting....home kenpo...aw....training.:D :D :D

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Maybe I should get my girlfriend to start Aikido.
Aikidoka's do it softer and with the flow.......

/Yari

Sneak Attacks... nope never had them in my experience yet.. ive maybe instigated a few with my smart-ass comments and the fact that im the only Red Wing Fan in the Place.. but hey.. what's a girl to do!!!:shrug:

:shrug:

Originally posted by Seig

I use sneak attacks all the time...We all had a good laugh, but it proves a point.

I think that the students should generally be aware of the possibility and then it would be pretty cool. We don't do this at my school but we do run the "Circle Drill" on occasion and I did quite well at it last time, but it is not the same thing.

We used to do "Dark Alley" at my old school, where we'd kill the lights and run a gauntlet. It was useful, but the circle drill is superior in my opinion.

I think Mr. Sullivan/the IKC calls it the Circle of Humiliation in some of their ads. Basically, you have students surround you in a Semi-Circle. The instructor is behind you. He points at students in the semi-circle and they attack with whatever they like. After you get going, he usually escalates to having you attacked while you are tied up with someone else. It is fun but you have the advantage of knowing you are going to be attacked, but from an unknown angle.

This also relates a bit to Jeff Cooper's mental alert states. I don't have them with me, but they discuss you being either "Unprepared for any attack (like at home watching TV with friends), Aware that an attack may occur (like you are walking alone downtown and it is getting dark), or Being attacked." There may also be another where there is an attack or danger going on and you are trying to avoid it. But he says that if you are attacked with deadly force when unaware, you are dead, so don't be there. Always be alert to possibilities. So in the studio, I'm not expecting anyone to jump me. I'm expecting to be working on what we are working on.

It sounds like some of you may also be fans of the Pink Panther series. One or two of those movies had a cool Ninja Master or Inernational Assasin in them.
:D

Originally posted by Eraser

Sneak Attacks... nope never had them in my experience yet.. ive maybe instigated a few with my smart-ass comments and the fact that im the only Red Wing Fan in the Place.. but hey.. what's a girl to do!!!:shrug:
Pick a different team?:rofl:

Originally posted by cdhall



It sounds like some of you may also be fans of the Pink Panther series. One or two of those movies had a cool Ninja Master or Inernational Assasin in them.
:D
Including SGM!!!!!!!!:asian:

Originally posted by Yari



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Maybe I should get my girlfriend to start Aikido.
Aikidoka's do it softer and with the flow.......

/Yari

My girlfriend is invovled in Wing Chun with me. Wing chunners do it with sticky hands.:p :confused:

Hmm ... sneak attacks .. might even be a good way to convince
my wife to train. Like on the episode of F*R*I*E*N*D*S* when
Ross would jump out of a hiding place and shout DANGER!!!! to scare the bejesus out of the girls! :cool:

My Aikido Sensei (and occasionally one or 2 of the other guys) will try a sneak attack on me. :eek: One reason he does it is to break my habbit of flinching. Another reason is I think he gets a kick out of seeing my expressions and hearing me scream.:D I don't mind it. One of the other guys in my dojo did grab my pony tail once and after about a whole minute of "EEEEK :eek: !!!!", I finally managed to do Sankyo on him.

Robyn :asian:

I LIKE THE SNEAK ATTACKS. IN THE REAL WORLD IT'S NOT LIKE THE ATTACKER IS GOING TO GIVE YOU WARNING BEFORE HAND. SEIG AND OTHERS IN THE DOJO ALWAYS SNEAK ATTACK US...BY THE WAY WE MIGHT SCREAM LIKE GIRLS BUT AT LEAST WE'RE STARTING TO LEARN AND PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO OUR SURROUNDING, EVEN IN THE DOJO. TRAINING OF SNEAK ATTACKS IN THE DOJO HAVE ALSO MADE ME MORE AWARE OF MY SURROUNDINGS OUTSIDE OF CLASS ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M WALKING FROM CLASS TO MY CAR AT NIGHT. :p

Me and my man "spar" all the time. We do sneak up on each other. I have more MA experience than him, so he tries to "sneak up" on me, but I always have a counter attack LOL. But, I do admit that he suprised me a few times, but it ended up in a ..... um ..... wrestling match ..... Yea, that's it :shrug:

ahh yes.. the sneak attacks..
Well I've used the Gauntlet a few time at our school.. and the dark hallway/alley.. the lower belts get one attacker.. the upper belts progessively more attackers.. It's great for all... though we did have one unfortunate episode.. an upper belt female was attacked by same rank male.. put into a choke.. she absolutely freaked out.. wildly kicking at all bystanders.. punching and running away.. (still with her head gear on) she sat down hard and buried her head in her arms.. I went to her side and she was sobbing.. took her outside after making sure she was not hurt physically.. come to find out.. she has claustrophobia for one.. and was terrified out of her wits and went into a panic attack.. This is something we didn't know as school owners.. and needless to say it was a bit of important medical/emotional history to have.. she also has a heart murmer that wasn't listed on her med. history.. This happened last year and she returned to class without ill effects.. though we ceased using that type of surprise attack.


I tend to walk through the room as I'm watching students in their techniques.. and push someone.. grab their shoulders.. throw a punch. and 90% react quite well.. a few still need to quit closing their eyes and running away.. but time will tell :)

When Seig and I are at home.. we 'play' or even driving to class each night.. he right hand 'pokes' me.. and I left hand block him.. its most amusing but sure helps me work on my left block.. *w*

Tess

Originally posted by KenpoTess


its most amusing but sure helps me work on my left block.. *w*

Tess
AHA! Your secret is out!!!!!!!!!! The pokes shall continue!!!!!!!No more pretending they annoy you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Bwahahahahaha!

Originally posted by FUZZYJ692000

I LIKE THE SNEAK ATTACKS. IN THE REAL WORLD IT'S NOT LIKE THE ATTACKER IS GOING TO GIVE YOU WARNING BEFORE HAND. SEIG AND OTHERS IN THE DOJO ALWAYS SNEAK ATTACK US...BY THE WAY WE MIGHT SCREAM LIKE GIRLS BUT AT LEAST WE'RE STARTING TO LEARN AND PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO OUR SURROUNDING, EVEN IN THE DOJO. TRAINING OF SNEAK ATTACKS IN THE DOJO HAVE ALSO MADE ME MORE AWARE OF MY SURROUNDINGS OUTSIDE OF CLASS ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M WALKING FROM CLASS TO MY CAR AT NIGHT. :p
Time to take it up a notch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:EG:

Originally posted by Seig
AHA! Your secret is out!!!!!!!!!! The pokes shall continue!!!!!!!No more pretending they annoy you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Bwahahahahaha!

Go get him Tess!!

:rofl:

I came, I saw, I poked

Originally posted by Seig

I came, I saw, I poked

Ohhhh.. Yeah you did ~!! You should see him Dennis~! He's ruthless~ from the car to me going up the stairs ahead of him.. Poke Poke poke.. sure I can block some things hahaa but the stairs.. he's gotten back kicked a few times ..*wg* Stickdummy even gave me my *APD* (anti poking device) but alas tis difficult to conceal an 18inch piece of lexan when I don't have sleeves~!
*chuckles*

Roughhousing is a blast as long as in each case 'control' is maintained.. Sometimes I'll jump one of the girls at the studio and we are down scrambling around.. headlocks... arm bars, double leg bars.. rug burns.. bruises from koshi grabbing.. hahaa.. Gotta love our Jiu-jitsu training :)

course when Seig gets me in a leg bar.. I'm rather doomed.. not that I mind. heheee

I have found FuzzyJ's nemesis when she gets me in a headlock.. ~! works every time.. Ok Jani.. I won't give out your secret.. *snickers*

Do I hear-
"Where are you, my little yellow friend?"
or
"Cato! You imbecile! Not now!"
:rofl:

sneak attacks...

interesting concept.

anyone else use this idea in their studio?

Originally posted by Nightingale
sneak attacks...

interesting concept.

anyone else use this idea in their studio?

My instructors do.

- Ceicei

We use the circle drill like Dougs school.

I"ve mentioned this to my teacher. I think it's a great idea. On the street you won't have advance notice of an attack so sneak up on people. Find out who freaks out and who defends.

I came, I saw, I poked

Vini, vidi.....pokey?;)

We do have a good time roughhousing at the studio and outside when our group is out and about together.. we were wandering around after eating dinner last weekend , 6 of us from the studio and nobody was safe from a kick, punch or poke *G*

Before class we are always roughhousing with each other.. usually ends up with a few bruises but that's part of the game :)

Originally posted by theletch1
Vini, vidi.....pokey?;)

Sneak attacks are always fun. Especially if you just made it to your detination and you know someone is supposed to be there waiting for you, but all the lights are off (heehee) it then becomes one of those "lets get ready to rumble" type of nights.

Bringing this ole thread to life...I love the idea of sneak attacks...anyone remember Kato??? uhhh think ...Pink Panther...



We sometimes drill for no mind...where you just have to react, but you know when it is about to begin, so sneak attacks would be oh so much more fun! Like huntin wabbits :viking2: ...I wonder though if people overreact and really hurt their attackers. Tess I read about that unfortunate incident with the claustrophobic girl...too bad. Maybe sneak attacks are good if you let people know that it could come at any time, and drill it often, then they are at least somewhat aware of it.



Goldendragon 7...

are you having too much fun with this in your school? :jaws: :)

I love the idea of sneak attacks...anyone remember Kato??? uhhh think ...Pink Panther...

hee hee...... Yep!


Goldendragon 7... are you having too much fun with this in your school? :jaws: :)

Too much fun....... Nope, I don't think so :idunno:..... besides I do it to the guys too!

%-}

hee hee...... Yep! :) I love that guy!!! Do you jump out from behind stuff just like him?:ninja:


Too much fun....... Nope, I don't think so :idunno: Don't ya know? There's no such thing as too much fun...exceptin if ya blackout and don't remember stuff..... besides I do it to the guys too!%-} Arrrggg...yes...get those guys....:ultracool

Goldendragon 7 did you ever have anyone freak out when you did this?

Being Goldendragon is my Instructor.. if he ever .. EVER does this to me.. I shall just lay down and 'play dead' *chortles*

Goldendragon 7 did you ever have anyone freak out when you did this?

All the time.............. that's the fun is to see the hilarious looks on their faces and totally funny reactions! However, after a while.... they get used to it and "Jason" couldn't scare them! LOL

:ultracool

Being Goldendragon is my Instructor.. if he ever .. EVER does this to me.. I shall just lay down and 'play dead' *chortles*
Hmmmm, this might be where CPR comes in handy.....

:xtrmshock:wavey::D:fanboy::uhohh::eek::anic::erg: :angel:

We haven't done this in our TKD dojang and I think it would be good reaction training. We learn self defense so s-l-o-w-l-y through the belts at the rate of 2-3 techniques per belts. The lower colored belts would be at a disadvantage. I would think they would tend to want to use anything they got. With no gear on, kicking and punching in the dark could get really nasty. I think we should learn self defense alot earlier as a broad base. We did it in kickboxing class. I taught self-defense for most attacks and my class probably would have been the most prepared as opposed to regular TKD who wouldn't have "remembered" their self defense from one belt to the next until constantly reviewing it - something we don't do. But for the 2nd dan test, I had to know and be proficient in all the self defense we do. It would be fun to "review" it with sneak attacks now, but if the attack was hard, I would think the reaction would be hard too. Somebodies liable to get hurt. We are not taught any deflection or control techniques, only severe damage. So I don't this would work for us right now, unfortunately. It would have been good "real life" training.

All the time.............. that's the fun is to see the hilarious looks on their faces and totally funny reactions! However, after a while.... they get used to it and "Jason" couldn't scare them! LOL

:ultracool This does sound like fun!!! Writing Goldendragon 7 takes awhile so is it ok if I start calling ya Kato for short?...:) Looks like you're somewhat of an imposing guy -I see why you have success with this... I think they'd just laugh at me, but I'm willing to try.

This does sound like fun!!!

Yes, it is. Not only does it have it's training and conditioning benefits of reaction and more importantly.... "awareness" (to always be aware of your environment sub consciously wherever you are) but also a fun social interaction within the family setting of the studio. Never do we ever get too hard or damaging to one another. All in fun and good training.


Writing Goldendragon 7 takes awhile so is it ok if I start calling ya Kato for short?...:)

Well, that would be a new one....... No one ever called me Kato before.....LOL:uhyeah:


Looks like you're somewhat of an imposing guy -I see why you have success with this... I think they'd just laugh at me, but I'm willing to try.

Imposing........ Nahhhh just unique.

:ultracool

also a fun social interaction within the family setting of the studio. Never do we ever get too hard or damaging to one another. All in fun and good training.

Well, that would be a new one....... No one ever called me Kato before.....LOL:uhyeah:

Imposing........ Nahhhh just unique.
:ultracool I love the idea of the family setting! Belonging is one of the subconscious reasons we have for being involved in learning! :ultracool

Unique is great!:boing2:

Ok so Kato it is...now no sneaking into the ladies locker room ummm...:uhohh:anyone sense Kato hanging around? :D LOL

%-} Sneak attack...



side shoulder grab....


Kato what do you do?


What do you do? (line from the movie Speed:) )

Hmmmm, this might be where CPR comes in handy.....

:xtrmshock:wavey::D:fanboy::uhohh::eek::anic::erg: :angel:


*snorts* You are such a naughty one~!!!

:EG: :uhohh:

Don't get me wrong with this post, I love to 'play' as much as the rest of the world but here it goes:

If martial training/techniques and skill can be compared to firearms, what would you say about a group of soldiers, LEO or gun club members roughhousing with those weapons while at the range?

I think the reactionary speed and adrenaline coping that is being used to justify the rough housing is a good thing to focus on, but in a structured, safe and clearly outlined training schedule.

We have a drill called pickle in the middle where people are left standing in the center of a circle and are ambushed, sneak attacked and surprised to develop/assess their ability to respond. Depending on the level, it is very structured or very loose. There might be weapons or grabs or multiple attackers and believe me there is a huge fun factor in the play.

If there are children in a program or even just junior students, and seniors are 'rough housing' with martial arts it might send the wrong message.

My husband and I roughhouse all the time. But I'm still working on getting rid of some PTSD - when my teacher sneak attacks me suddenly, he usually goes for a choke hole from the rear - I'm fighting a panic reaction and am trying to respond without hurting him. He's very patient with me.

We also run the gauntlet - good practice!

I think this is important training because I don't think most people realize just how fast things go down when it gets dirty.

Regarding doing these drills before younger ranks and in children's classes...I think that's totally inappropriate. These drills and advanced techniques such as chokes are reserved for brown and up.

Wow, "sneak attacks" in the dojo. Sound like a great way to cause an injury.

I would never try sneak attacks. Too afraid of what would happen. As far as sneak attack at home, my wife has never done that to me. I think she's too afraid that I would accidentally belt her out of reflex, and I could never live with myself if I did that. Don't even like wrestling with her for the same reason. She gets me in some hold, and my reaction is to start attacking vital points, which doesn't go over well with her.

i understand the practicality of sneak attacks, but i don't know, it just might not be a good idea for some people. i'm thinking someone could get hurt, or someone could be a survivor of some kind of trauma/abuse-(wink-wink), and you might not know it. you plan a surprise attack on her and she (or he) freezes. you don't wanna open up that can of worms. it's really ugly.


i guess it would depend on what rank the student is, and if you have enough of a rapport with the student that 'anything goes' would be okay with them.
just my two cents.

i understand the practicality of sneak attacks, but i don't know, it just might not be a good idea for some people. i'm thinking someone could get hurt, or someone could be a survivor of some kind of trauma/abuse-(wink-wink), and you might not know it. you plan a surprise attack on her and she (or he) freezes. you don't wanna open up that can of worms. it's really ugly.


i guess it would depend on what rank the student is, and if you have enough of a rapport with the student that 'anything goes' would be okay with them.
just my two cents.
I was abused and attacked...my teacher rarely sneaks up on me (by choice, I'm sure) and I know why - I've sunk my nails into him more than once.

But the important thing is he makes the effort to carefully work with me to overcome that panic reaction. I'm still fighting it - those experiences leave deep-seated effects.

MJ - it wouldn't be a complete secret if you tried this one -- but I won't tell Chuck - how's that for starters?

Some of us do sneak attacks on each other. One of the guys put me in a bear hug from the rear and started yelling at me to do a tech to get out of it. He ended up laughing because I got out of it -- won't divulge what I did, however.

It really does matter who you're doing this drill with. The guy I mentioned above is a survivor of 9/11 - escaped from the second tower but is still not really able to live with some of the things he saw and was unfortunately part of. I would NEVER EVER do this drill with him without his consent because of this. Assuming that everyone knows that the drill is part of class, then I agree that it is a good thing to do. Our variation is that we are assigned numbers and a type of attack. Our instructor calls the number and you have to attack. As I am usually the only woman in class, it's good practice for me to try to fight off all these big guys. They, on the other hand, have to be aware of me, too, since I'm smaller and, in most cases, quicker. I'm also a kicker, which most of them are not, so that just adds another dimension.

My ponytail is off-limits. You have to EARN ponytail rights.

I was abused and attacked...my teacher rarely sneaks up on me (by choice, I'm sure) and I know why - I've sunk my nails into him more than once.

But the important thing is he makes the effort to carefully work with me to overcome that panic reaction. I'm still fighting it - those experiences leave deep-seated effects. I was talking with one of my instructors a while ago, and we were talking about self-defense/acting out situations. It was a very enlightening conversation. In part, I was arguing about taking a much more individual-based approach. So for people who have suffered attacks or a history of abuse would not be terrorized/ have past history be triggered. I don't think this person has considered that there might be men out there with this kind of history as well - not *everyone* who has been attacked or abused has been a woman. As myself as an example, I have so far been very fortunate in not having been attacked, but I have certain patterns of behavior/responses that I need to work against. I could not just have someone start cussing me out and swinging at me. I would need to work up to it. Essentially, I told this person that I don't want to have a panic attack or personal history triggered which would mean that, instead of training, I would be curled up in a ball on the floor and sobbing.

I think giving women more roughhousing to "train" them can backfire if it's not done intelligently and in personal context.

I think giving women more roughhousing to "train" them can backfire if it's not done intelligently and in personal context.


Very, very true.

One woman I trained was raped at knifepoint as a child...a plastic training knife gave her flashbacks and the shakes. I'm happy to report she got over it.

On the other hand I've seen women who were victims continue to drill and work hard, but cry openly as they did so. One in particular did this and hit me very, very hard.

This turned out to be rather cathartic for her, and empowering. It snapped my head like a Pez dispenser, but I'm always happy to be of help....

But your point is well taken. Instructors have to be sensitive to the possibility that a woman has these issues (or a man, though I've never seen it expressed openly), and then we have to deal with it carefully.

Regards,


Steve

Sneak attacks can be fun. Any of the people at my school who try it on me will find themselves promptly in a gillioutine, however. *glares around*

There is practicality, but I think my instructor does it purely for his own amusment, however. :rolleyes:

Any of the people at my school who try it on me will find themselves promptly in a gillioutine, however. *glares around*

Also besides a gilloutine some will get there ear damn near ripped off ;)

but I think my instructor does it purely for his own amusment, however. :rolleyes:
:p

Yeah, so?

:p

Yeah, so?

*sigh* see what me and FWA put up with? :rolleyes:

Sneak Attack...:boing2:










Front Choke! What do you do? What do you do?

Sneak Attack...:boing2:










Front Choke! What do you do? What do you do?


:idunno: :2pistols: :btg:

Sneak Attack...:boing2:
Front Choke! What do you do? What do you do?

OMGawd!!!!!

On the subject of attacking women, I have a story I've been telling everyone for two days now. I have a yellow belt student who's been with us for three months or so. She's in her mid twenties and when she came to our school she was very timid and now she hits hard and loves it. She told me her co-workers think she's weird because she shows up to work with bruises on her arms and she thinks that's cool. In our all ranks day class yesterday, I took the students to the alley behind our school and we trained outside. At the end of class, I had the students stage themselves througout the alley and one student would walk the length of the alley and defend themself if they were attacked. Students could hide or not, pretend to be engaged in some activity, and even pick up environmental weapons. I saw alot of really creative ideas including throwing grass in a person's face and attackers pretending to have car trouble and needing help. Well, Stephanie was last and when she went to the end of the alley, I got the students together, all guys, and I told them that I wanted us to attack her as a gang and try to get her surrounded. When we approached Stephanie she kept her distance, got her hands up, and used verbal commands. She was doing great and then one of my students grabbed her. Suddenly she had one student holding her in a rear bearhug and another had her in a headlock. Then she managed to get free of both attacks, struck her attackers several times, pushed another attacker away, and kicked a fourth guy in the knee. Then she took off running down the alley and escaped. I was so impressed. We ended class and I made a big deal of how I thought she did a great job. I was so proud of my student for how she handled that situation.

I think its important to attack women in ways they might experience in real life. If I'm working with a woman, I use more chokes, hair grabs, takedowns, and even pins. I want them to be ready to do what they need to. In scenario drills, I will sometimes alter the scenario to reflect the ways in which men and women might be attacked differently. I often mug or beat the men, I might try to attack or abduct the women. In a controlled setting of course.


-Rob

On the subject of attacking women, I have a story I've been telling everyone for two days now. I have a yellow belt student who's been with us for three months or so. She's in her mid twenties and when she came to our school she was very timid and now she hits hard and loves it. She told me her co-workers think she's weird because she shows up to work with bruises on her arms and she thinks that's cool. In our all ranks day class yesterday, I took the students to the alley behind our school and we trained outside. At the end of class, I had the students stage themselves througout the alley and one student would walk the length of the alley and defend themself if they were attacked. Students could hide or not, pretend to be engaged in some activity, and even pick up environmental weapons. I saw alot of really creative ideas including throwing grass in a person's face and attackers pretending to have car trouble and needing help. Well, Stephanie was last and when she went to the end of the alley, I got the students together, all guys, and I told them that I wanted us to attack her as a gang and try to get her surrounded. When we approached Stephanie she kept her distance, got her hands up, and used verbal commands. She was doing great and then one of my students grabbed her. Suddenly she had one student holding her in a rear bearhug and another had her in a headlock. Then she managed to get free of both attacks, struck her attackers several times, pushed another attacker away, and kicked a fourth guy in the knee. Then she took off running down the alley and escaped. I was so impressed. We ended class and I made a big deal of how I thought she did a great job. I was so proud of my student for how she handled that situation.

I think its important to attack women in ways they might experience in real life. If I'm working with a woman, I use more chokes, hair grabs, takedowns, and even pins. I want them to be ready to do what they need to. In scenario drills, I will sometimes alter the scenario to reflect the ways in which men and women might be attacked differently. I often mug or beat the men, I might try to attack or abduct the women. In a controlled setting of course.


-Rob
Rob, You can tell her she's gotten the MT wave:

:-partyon:

Way to go! KT

OMGawd!!!!!LOlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll ll:rofl: Kato is that all you can do????

:idunno: :2pistols: :btg:The gun'll work! :uhyeah:

I got the students together, all guys, and I told them that I wanted us to attack her as a gang and try to get her surrounded. When we approached Stephanie she kept her distance, got her hands up, and used verbal commands. She was doing great and then one of my students grabbed her. Suddenly she had one student holding her in a rear bearhug and another had her in a headlock. Then she managed to get free of both attacks, struck her attackers several times, pushed another attacker away, and kicked a fourth guy in the knee. Then she took off running down the alley and escaped. I was so impressed. We ended class and I made a big deal of how I thought she did a great job. I was so proud of my student for how she handled that situation.
Cool Story Rob!! :ultracool Tell her "ATTA GIRL!" %-}

In our TKD school we don't usually do sneak attacks, but I attact my students ,during a self defence drill, for example, in a different way than I was "supposed to" according to the drill. You see immediately who is focused and respondes to a different attack and who keeps playing the robot and not responding or responding too late.


Anna.

Sneak attack on the golden "oldie!"

Sneak attack on the golden "oldie!"

I love it! But if GD7 appears in your doorway, RUN!! :rofl:

Hugs,
Gin-Gin

I love it! But if GD7 appears in your doorway, RUN!! :rofl: Hugs, Gin-Gin
Long inhale........ short exhale..... repeat.... "I find your lack of faith disturbing".........

Long inhale........ short exhale..... repeat.... "I find your lack of faith disturbing".........

I was just kidding Sir.....Ow! Ow! That's hurts!! Somebody help me!!!

Begging your forgiveness,
Gin-Gin :asian:

Wait just one dang minute...what's that I see on your helmet young man???? I mean O dark one? Since when did?....What's that say? Conatser...are you a? A, a ,a double agent?????? Where's Jason where's my Queen? I need to get to the bottom of this!

I love it! But if GD7 appears in your doorway, RUN!! :rofl:

Hugs,
Gin-GinWell Gi Gin if he's still got fruit for a head my Kenpo training better kick in, so yeah I'm runnin'!!!

Dan BOOO!

Agree, just make sure to do it to the guys too, of course :)