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Mc Qoorbs
04-03-2005, 06:35 PM
between ninjutsu...jeninkan and etc...ive seen like 20 different names in this ninjutsu forum...im new in the jeninkan art...im mad confused

Shogun
04-04-2005, 08:53 PM
Did you have a specific question..?

Shogun
04-04-2005, 08:59 PM
You could do a search, but generally, Bujinkan, Jinenkan, Genbukan, and To-shindo are the only "ninjutsu" names you should trust. They all come from Hatsumi, the Bujinkan founder, and current Soke'(head of family/grandmaster).

Takematsu, the 33rd generation grandmaster of Ninja Taijutsu, trained the founders of what are called the X-kans (bujinkan, Genbukan, jinenkan).

The other 16 names are irrelevent. Basically, its better to train under a crappy X-kan guy than a really good Dux ryu/RTMS/RBWI/etc guy.

KE

Grey Eyed Bandit
04-04-2005, 09:07 PM
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15397

It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under...

DWeidman
04-04-2005, 09:52 PM
Takematsu, the 33rd generation grandmaster of Ninja Taijutsu, trained the founders of what are called the X-kans (bujinkan, Genbukan, jinenkan).

Takamatsu only trained one successor. The non-Bujinkan X-kans are all decendants of Hatsumi-den.

-Daniel

Shizen Shigoku
04-04-2005, 10:00 PM
Come on, Nim, you know people don't read stickies!

Grey Eyed Bandit
04-04-2005, 10:26 PM
If you had kept quiet, no one would have noticed the link I posted led to a sticky...:btg:

Shogun
04-05-2005, 08:44 PM
I dint even look at the link. good one.

Takamatsu only trained one successor. The non-Bujinkan X-kans are all decendants of Hatsumi-den.Oh.

I know he only trained one succesor, but dint Tanemura and them recieve training from Mongolian Tiger?

Grey Eyed Bandit
04-05-2005, 08:59 PM
They did meet him, yes. If I'm not mistaken it's Tanemura being choked.

http://home.luna.nl/~risu/graphics/taktai5.JPG

Dale Seago
04-05-2005, 09:15 PM
I know he only trained one succesor, but dint Tanemura and them recieve training from Mongolian Tiger?

Yes.

One single day.

paradoxbox
04-06-2005, 01:03 AM
Don't take this thread down the path it looks like it is going.

Manaka, Tanemura, Hatsumi soke are all martial artists who as far as I am concerned are the among the best martial artists on the planet. Tanemura also did train under other students of Takamatsu.

For a beginner I would say (my opinion) Jinenkan emphasizes learning the techniques properly and exactly, providing an extremely strong understanding of the technique.

Genbukan seems to emphasize learning the basic techniques as well as the feeling of the techniques.

Bujinkan can be all over the place. But usually I think the feeling and flow of a technique are focused on, more often than not.

Of course as you progress through training things start to change. You become more free of basics, freer to explore the techniques you mastered. I believe this is the case for all 3 kans (Stop me if I am wrong).

Each -kan has something to offer and it's not our place to say which is better or which is more *whatever* than the other.

Have a good day

Cory Burke

Mc Qoorbs
04-24-2005, 05:46 AM
ok thanx for the replys i get it now that online martial arts dictionary is ill