Hi folks,


This is my first message on these boards and probably like most beginners I am looking for advice in choosing the correct martial art for my kids [9yrs & 6yrs] and who knows, perhaps even myself. However, I have been reading previous posts and have checked out what’s available, let them attend a couple of classes in each (whilst I watched) and have essentially narrowed it down to two choices, namely jujitsu and kupso.

My kids like them both and I was wondering what your opinions were between the two. For information, the reason that I would like my kids to do something like this would be to keep them fit, give them some practical self defence skills (although both are popular with loads of friends and haven’t had any problems so far) and to help boost the confidence of one of my kids (who’s a bit too shy, e.g. would want to ask the teacher a question but lacks the confidence to do so - although he'll be doing this amongst other stuff to help out his confidence levels).

Now to my untrained eye, kupso looked a bit like taekwondo with some other stuff thrown in, but apart from the main kupso-dot-com website I cant find any resources on it or impartial analysis of it whereas jujitsu (again to my untrained eye) moves looked quite complicated for any real practical usage albeit there are many resources say it is used by armies across the world (but then several make that claim)…

Another quick question but is it possible to do both? Apart from say having a problem with time, would doing two just confuse the issue?

Anyway, as I said though, I know nothing and am really looking for people in the know to give me their opinions on the choice between the two?



Thanks in advance,

Cam.

I've never done Jujitsu but I did have my first lesson of Kupso today, really enjoyed it!

I have 2 years of TKD experience behind me and I found it pretty different.

My little nephew (5) does Kupso as well, I'm not sure what your kids should do though, I guess whatever one they enjoy the most :)

In looking at the Kupso web site, it looks like just a hodgepodge of techniques thrown together with a Tae Kwon Do base. Personally, I would keep on looking.

As for Jujitsu, it is a highly effective martial art. But there are many styles of Jujitsu. Do you have a web site for the Jujitsu school you are looking at?

Some Jujitsu techniques may appear impractical (and some may ver well be). But looks can be deceiving. Jujitsu is one art that needs to be experienced to be understood.

Greetings,

I would do this : see what is locally available and visit, talk to the instructor(s), watch the classes, look for kids tha same age as yours, then ask the instructor to allow you to ask them about the calss with your kids there so they can ask too.

Hi, I have kids as well. Mine are 5 and 3. If I didnt know a Martial Art, I would probably look into kenpo, TKD (Since they are everywhere), or shotokan. All three are good for them to learn. I, on the other hand will train my kids in kajukenbo when both are a little older. It has been 13 yrs since I trained so I, myself, am rusty too.

Never heard of Kupso until this thread. Did a search, found a Kupso Tuite Association. Kupso is Korean for Pressure Point (kyusho). Wondering why they used Tuite? Isn't it Okinawan for grab hand? So they changed one word to a Korean word but left the other in Okinawan. As for that, both arts could be studied. Not sure if a child should try to study both at the same time.

I seen they had a seminar with Rick Clark. He is one of George Dillman's black belts. So they are probably affiliated with George Dillman's Organization.

thanks guys...

i have let them both attend another couple of classes in each (the reason that the choices were between the two styles was because they were the classes that were nearby and that we liked the look of and i liked the look of the instructors and so on).

anyway, we have made a decision in that my oldest is going to do jujitsu because he finds the kupso class a bit 'babyish' (they play a few games as part of the class and so on) and my youngest is going to do kupso (probably with a view to switch to jujitsu and join his brother when he gets a bit older).

to answer JAMJTX's question, i don't know what style of jujitsu the class is in, i would say it isn't the brazilian one because it was more about throws and then locking joints or striking and moving away than the wrestling style that i think brazilian jujitsu is based on... i will ask this week though.

thanks again,
Cam

Never heard of Kupso until this thread. Did a search, found a Kupso Tuite Association. Kupso is Korean for Pressure Point (kyusho). Wondering why they used Tuite? Isn't it Okinawan for grab hand? So they changed one word to a Korean word but left the other in Okinawan. As for that, both arts could be studied. Not sure if a child should try to study both at the same time.

I seen they had a seminar with Rick Clark. He is one of George Dillman's black belts. So they are probably affiliated with George Dillman's Organization.Rck Clarke is no longer with us, they are probably one of his schools.

Hi i have studied kupso for the past 2 and a half years and it has opened my eyes. Prior to this i studied tae kwon do for going on 6 years. Kupso which rightly means pressure point and tuite meaning hand grab these are incorporated in our MA in throwing locking and pressure point attacks. It is a mixture of martial arts the tae kwon do aspects are incorporated for sport purposes and enjoyment. Then we study chung do kwan ao denko jitsu. Further down the path you have the chance to study Bagua,kali,tai chi,5 ancestors 5 animals. Our base is SEACS which is south east asian combat systems....

thanks guys...

i have let them both attend another couple of classes in each (the reason that the choices were between the two styles was because they were the classes that were nearby and that we liked the look of and i liked the look of the instructors and so on).

anyway, we have made a decision in that my oldest is going to do jujitsu because he finds the kupso class a bit 'babyish' (they play a few games as part of the class and so on) and my youngest is going to do kupso (probably with a view to switch to jujitsu and join his brother when he gets a bit older).

to answer JAMJTX's question, i don't know what style of jujitsu the class is in, i would say it isn't the brazilian one because it was more about throws and then locking joints or striking and moving away than the wrestling style that i think brazilian jujitsu is based on... i will ask this week though.

thanks again,
Cam
Glad you checked us out the reason we incorporate games into our kids classes is to give them some fun while learning and give them knowledge at the same time. Kids will be kids and i don't believe you should force a child to learn thats why we like to have fun while learning hoping to give them that happy medium. Also it is a good way to give kids a little extra confidence.

GOOD LUCK

Hello, I am not familiar with both. Just my thoughts? You may want your kids to learn jujitsu because of the many schools/teachers all over the place. Yes there are many kinds of jujitsu styles. If you/they move as they grow, they will be able to continue their training. How many Kupso schools are around/teachers if they leave? Something to consider? ......Aloha

their is uver 30 classes over scotland...

[QUOTE=JAMJTX]In looking at the Kupso web site, it looks like just a hodgepodge of techniques thrown together with a Tae Kwon Do base. Personally, I would keep on looking.



Hey mate you talk out of your ass dont judge what i study until you try it personally i dont think you could last 5 mins with any of us!!!!

Kupso looks like a mish-mash of Rick Clark's pressure point stuff and other systems. Could be fine, but proceed with caution with any "new" art.

Maybe its the Chinese Kick Boxing or the art of destroying with hands and feet, or the paste on pressure point, but I get the feeling the ink is still wet on the history of this system

I trained with the chief instructor, Allan Buchan, for a short while. He was a VERY good Taekwondo man.

The main concern that I would have is that the other arts like Silat, Kuntao, 5 ancestors etc are being added together. Is this being done with a master plan/vision or are they being added just for the sake of it? To my experience, silat, kuntao and kung fu would not be easily blended with korean taekwondo as they are fundamentally different.

How many seniors have actually studied this other stuff and to what degree?

Not trying to put down the style. I have no experience of it other than the TaeKwonDo part which, as i said, was very solid. I would just ask legitimate questions about the overall strategy before embarking on a course of study.
Smee