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Angelusmortis
02-03-2005, 01:57 PM
Hi guys,

have heard about systema for some time, as a practitioner of Wing Chun, and hopefully (when I find another local class) soon, Ju-jitsu, I confess to knowing nothing about systema. Out of interest, what are it's defining principles, is it predominantly based on grappling or strikes, or an effective mix of both??? I here it's pretty effective?? Apologies if this question has been posed elsewhere...

Cheers...

OUMoose
02-03-2005, 02:08 PM
Might want to check out this site: Systema Headquarters (http://www.russianmartialart.com/home.php)

Seems to have lots of systema info from the source. :)

WillFightForBeer
02-04-2005, 06:33 PM
Neither striking nor grappling.
I like to call it survival. In any situation.

-Ilya

Angelusmortis
02-04-2005, 06:40 PM
Just surviving?? Sounds intriguing...

Paul Genge
02-06-2005, 06:31 AM
I have a lot of articles on this site (http://www.russianmartialart.org.uk). This may help you find some answers.


Also a search on any web browser will reveal plenty of other sites with information and video clips.

Paul Genge
Russian Martial Arts Northwest (UK)

Autocrat
02-06-2005, 10:21 AM
Isn't this just a variant of their military training what not..... taking techniques from otehr styles, particularly those that are quick, effective, and without much need to set up?????

Same sort of thing as that Krav Maga (?) and the american forces thing where they concentrate on joints and the angle of attack, rather than the method of attack ?

Clive
02-06-2005, 11:07 AM
Isn't this just a variant of their military training what not..... taking techniques from otehr styles, particularly those that are quick, effective, and without much need to set up?????

Same sort of thing as that Krav Maga (?) and the american forces thing where they concentrate on joints and the angle of attack, rather than the method of attack ?

No

WillFightForBeer
02-06-2005, 05:40 PM
Clive......Furtry has a monopoly on the 1-word answer. Come on mate, it's been done.

And yes, the answer is "no".

-Ilya

Clive
02-07-2005, 04:45 PM
On the odd occasion I am able to 'Furtry' someone before the master but usually he is just too fast. Must be all that relaxation..

Furtry
02-08-2005, 09:11 PM
On the odd occasion I am able to 'Furtry' someone before the master but usually he is just too fast. Must be all that relaxation..
As long as you use your powers wisely all will be calm with in the force, my young Jedi :jedi1: :btg:

NYCRonin
02-08-2005, 10:03 PM
And if the power of the force is not sufficient...use the power of the FARCE!
None of the crew seems offended when 'the farce' is used - and no appologies necessary.
Systemans seem to smile and laugh a hell of alot more than any m.a. exponents I was ever a member of.
AND - my dear friend Furtry - he has one of the most infectious smiles and laughs I have EVER been privaleged enough to hear....and share.

MAY THE FARCE BE WITH YOU! Always.

mscroggins
02-09-2005, 12:19 PM
Most of my studies center around two concepts:

1) Farceninto (the farce that takes knowledge)
2) Farcejinken (the farce that gives knowledge)

One day I hope to reach Furty's level of facrein. So I can too can wield the farce of no farce.

MAY THE FARCE BE WITHIN EVERYONE! EVERYWHERE! EVERYDAY!