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Kane
10-16-2004, 04:04 AM
In the spirit of the most popular unpopular subject on Martial Talk *cough* Man vs. Beast *cough*, I have found an interesting thread from a Animal vs Animal forum;

http://p083.ezboard.com/fsharks77551frm2.showMessageRange?topicID=738.topi c&start=1&stop=20 (http://p083.ezboard.com/fsharks77551frm2.showMessageRange?topicID=738.topi c&start=1&stop=20)

In the thread the members discuss of instances where men (who I doubt know any martial arts) have bested a leopard by pinning them on the ground and strangling. All the way to page two it is discussed (don't get distracted by the dog talk).

It really surprised me to see how many cases there are of big cat defensive (defending yourself against a big cat is the hardest too!). I knew there were cases where men have bested leopards "bare-handed" but I didn't know that they were as common as they make it sound. It almost shows that a leopard can only beat a man 6/10 times instead of 8/10 times.

Oh and yes, leopards are much stronger, fiercer, and agile than North America's cougars. Though the leopars in some of the cases were weakened, it doesn't sway from the facts that it isn't impossible to attempt such a defense if the scenario arised.
By the sounds of it, it seems that grapplers (people like me :boing2: ) would have a better chance at defeating a big cat like a leopard or cougar since these defensives against these cats had to do with pinning and strangulation. So probably BJJ, Aikido, and various other grappling MA is the best if you live around any annoying MEDIUM sized predators in the area. However, if you run into a tiger, lion, or grizzly bear (oh my!), then it is best to run far and fast.

So guess I man defending himself against same-sized predator without a weapon is very much possible. Though not a feat to be taken lightly, it can definitely happen.

MA-Caver
10-16-2004, 06:22 AM
Think about how strong a lepoard must be to be able to drag the body of a 60-75 lb gazelle it just killed up into a tree...using just it's jaws to hold on to the carcass while all four limbs are used to leap up to the lowest branches and then climb the rest of the way to a branch high enough and strong enough to support the weight of both animals... then hang on to the carcass while eating on it... (think: weight distribution and balancing).
Now also think about the speed of the animal and the strength it has (size to weight ratio) and it's fangs, teeth, powerful jaws and razor sharp claws that are sharpened every time it climbs up into a tree... with or without a carcass.
Now answer the question if you'd be able to out grappel an animal like that. Controlling your fear, pain and the animal all at the same time.