View Full Version : Unconventional Weapons
Nightingale
01-20-2004, 09:17 AM
Most schools teach weapons in some form, the usual suspects being bo, katana, nunchuk, escrima, kama, etc...
do any of your schools teach anything different or unusual?
OULobo
01-20-2004, 09:37 AM
How about kukri and dha? How about palm stick and short stick? How about karambit and sabatan?
7starmantis
01-20-2004, 10:14 AM
I've got one, how about the flute?
This one allways gets people, they can't understand the aplication of the flute. In actuality, it is one of the most dangerous weapons we do. It is actually very usefull to know because it is about a foot long inch and a half thick bamboo flute, which you could use almost anything, pipe, stick, anything that fits those dynamics.
My sifu says, "when the flute comes out, someone is going to die". :D
7sm
OULobo
01-20-2004, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by 7starmantis
My sifu says, "when the flute comes out, someone is going to die". :D
7sm
Or. . . . it's time to dance. :D
7starmantis
01-20-2004, 02:39 PM
Thats only during our Riverdance Form.
:rofl:
7sm
tshadowchaser
01-20-2004, 04:37 PM
non traditional but the newspaper
I really try to teach my students to use anything they pick up as weapon
We play with rocks and trowing sticks once in a while
Cruentus
01-20-2004, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by tshadowchaser
non traditional but the newspaper
Yes...but not nearly as musical as the flute! :D
pesilat
01-20-2004, 06:36 PM
Flexible weapons - who didn't know I was going to say that? :p
Water bottles, writing utensils, and shoes (held in hands). Those are some that I've used in the past - the first ones that come to mind. I do that sort of thing a lot - I just pick up something and start playing with it as a weapon.
Mike
dearnis.com
01-20-2004, 06:37 PM
whip, sarong, throwing weapons, spear, chair, beer mug.....
superdave
01-20-2004, 07:31 PM
Car antenna. Solid and flexible. The little tip will split skin like it was warm butter.
The down side is the owner of the car might get pissed if someone breaks off their antenna.
whackjob-san
01-20-2004, 08:37 PM
We teach self-defense applications for the credit card, a rolled up newspaper, or a spikey high-heel, but these are hardly formal weapons forms.
When I'm in a pinch, I always revert to old faithful; I hit them with the Earth. I guarantee it's bigger than whatever weapon they're carrying... ;)
MA-Caver
01-20-2004, 09:15 PM
At a Wing-Chun seminar I attended years ago I learned that a mini-mag (flashlight) serves as a good defensive weapon (kubotan) in a pinch. Was told (at seminar) that Mag-lite (company) was requested by police organizations to create a smaller version of their famous lights for just this purpose...also as a companion to their side-arms for dark places. (dunno if it's true but t'was interesting none-the-less).
dearnis.com
01-20-2004, 09:39 PM
I doubt the last about the mini-mag. Nice lights, but too small (read thin) to shoot with, and too little light output.
Quick Sand
01-21-2004, 12:16 AM
I did a seminar with auxillary police once that weren't allowed to carry guns so we taught them techniques with the Mag-lite. Not the mini ones but the full sized. Can be used like a stick or whatever or hitting, trapping etc. Plusing blinding a bit.
Kempo Guy
01-21-2004, 02:28 AM
Our system teach many traditional Japanese weapons (sword, short sword, tanto, naginata, jo, tessen etc.) but we also keep in mind that we can utilize many day to day objects in place of some of these weapons (such as the tessen, jo, tanto etc.).
KG
Cruentus
01-21-2004, 02:07 PM
I was practicing my SBD techniques the other day.
In other words, I had the farts, and they were Silent but deadly....weee, its good we weren't grappling! :rofl:
Originally posted by PAUL
I was practicing my SBD techniques the other day.
In other words, I had the farts, and they were Silent but deadly....weee, its good we weren't grappling! :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Mike
OULobo
01-21-2004, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by PAUL
I was practicing my SBD techniques the other day.
In other words, I had the farts, and they were Silent but deadly....weee, its good we weren't grappling! :rofl:
Remeber that chmical weapons are against the Geneva Convention.
someguy
01-21-2004, 03:22 PM
Theres an idea. If you get mugged by some really immature person fart really loud and then it will crack them up then you beat them up. I think i'll skip training this on though.
tshadowchaser
01-21-2004, 05:12 PM
I did a seminar with auxillary police once that weren't allowed to carry guns so we taught them techniques with the Mag-lite. Not the mini ones but the full sized. Can be used like a stick or whatever or hitting, trapping etc.
Got poked with one and hit a few times by well meaning officers once they hurt like hell.
It is a great weapon
Cryozombie
01-21-2004, 08:25 PM
Kusari-fundo (chain with weights at the end) Mestubishi (blinding powder... we use dirt and sand and such) shuriken, kyoketsu Shoge, (hooked rope knife) and lots of other other exotic weapons... we dont focus on many of them, but we do train with them.
At our school we primarily do Knife, Hanbo, Kusari-Fundo and sword.
Black Bear
02-09-2004, 02:35 PM
Maglites are passe but probably as little as 10 years ago they were considered THE premiere self-defense flashlight, both club and kubotan-sized variations. Weak beam, no quick-on like the Surefires' tailcap switch, they're considered a joke.
superdave, the car antenna thing is usually associated with JKDC culture, is that your background? We never train with that in studio. It's regarded as a s-d improvised weapon, kind of like a ballpoint pen. If you understand the mechanics of an analogous traditional weapon, then you know what to do with it.
We train with drones: replica tac folders made by the original manufacturer, but having dull blades with thickened tips so they can be used in practice without injury. These are essential for deployment drills. We do the more conventional knife stuff with rubber blades, of course.
It's just like we work with soft sticks for full-contact (they still sting) but practice draw drills and tactics with real collapsible batons against, say, thai pads.
We also occasionally practice throwing things of various sizes and weights.
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