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    Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    Just when you think that illicit drugs couldn't get any worse beyond angel dust, crack/cocaine, heroin, now comes the next step, Krokodil. Cheaper and easier to make. It not just kills it disfigures the survivors and causes permanent brain damage.

    By SIMON SHUSTER / CHICHEVO, RUSSIA – Tue Jun 21, 12:55 am ET
    The new arrivals at the drug rehab center in Chichevo, a tiny village two hours' drive east of Moscow, are usually given two weeks without chores to recover from the nausea, pain and sleeplessness of withdrawal. After that, between Bible study and prayer (the center is run by Pentecostals) they have to start chopping firewood, hauling water from the village well or otherwise helping around the old wooden house. But a lot more leeway was allowed in the case of Irina Pavlova, the only resident at the center who is addicted to krokodil, or crocodile, Russia's deadliest new designer drug.


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    Re: Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    ...Gives new meaning to the term crocodile tears. I don't think it will really catch on in the US. Its not like I can step out my door and buy Heroine where I live; but, it is available to those in the know. I just don't see it being used by the general public.
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    Re: Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    If there's money to be made off it, it will be sold in NA.
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    Re: Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    Makes meth look like smoking a bong....
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    Re: Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    Quote Originally Posted by granfire View Post
    Makes meth look like smoking a bong....
    Not really. A guy made some meth with some of my stainless steel black oxide mix from work. The first guy to try it ended up in a coma, and the guy that stole my mix ended up floating face down in the Spokane river. I can see safer versions being made of the crock, but don't go thinking meth is safe.
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    Re: Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    Quote Originally Posted by Touch Of Death View Post
    Not really. A guy made some meth with some of my stainless steel black oxide mix from work. The first guy to try it ended up in a coma, and the guy that stole my mix ended up floating face down in the Spokane river. I can see safer versions being made of the crock, but don't go thinking meth is safe.
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    Re: Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    Americans invented it (desomorphine) in the 30's, it seems. They used to sell it as an operative analgesic in a few European countries, didn't use it here because of the addiction potential. Also, I wonder how much of the health problem is the bottom grade industrial chemicals being used - a proper distillation includes things like palladium based catalysts, and is a pretty ugly procedure.
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    Re: Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    I would be willing to bet that the "rotting" effect, assuming it's even real as described, is due to the methods of cooking and production and not the drug itself. The drug itself, desomorphine, is synthesized and prescribed for medical use, and needless to say it doesn't rot anyone. From the article, the codeine is mixed with "gasoline, paint thinner, hydrochloric acid, iodine and red phosphorous, which they scrape from the striking pads on matchboxes." I would bet you anything that the effects seen are from those substances, and not the drug itself.
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    Re: Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    Quote Originally Posted by Touch Of Death View Post
    ...Gives new meaning to the term crocodile tears. I don't think it will really catch on in the US. Its not like I can step out my door and buy Heroine where I live; but, it is available to those in the know. I just don't see it being used by the general public.
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    Re: Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    Quote Originally Posted by MA-Caver View Post
    That's what they said about marijuana, acid, cocaine and crack...

    Never underestimate the lure of a better high's power... nor underestimate the people willing to sell that lure for a profit.

    It'll be here. Give it time.
    I just don't see a lot of opium making it over here. I may be naive but its pretty tight at the border for businesses and military service men. I, again, could be wrong.
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    Re: Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    Quote Originally Posted by Touch Of Death View Post
    I just don't see a lot of opium making it over here. I may be naive but its pretty tight at the border for businesses and military service men. I, again, could be wrong.
    The opium trade in this country have been going on for a long time. Only until 1907 did it start being illegal.
    There were no legal restrictions on the importation or use of opium in the United States until the San Francisco, California, Opium Den Ordinance, which banned dens for public smoking of opium in 1875, a measure fueled by anti-Chinese sentiment and the perception that whites were starting to frequent the dens. This was followed by an 1891 California law requiring that narcotics carry warning labels and that their sales be recorded in a registry, amendments to the California Pharmacy and Poison Act in 1907 making it a crime to sell opiates without a prescription, and bans on possession of opium or opium pipes in 1909.[56]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium#P..._outside_China
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    Opium production in Afghanistan has been on the rise since U.S. occupation started in 2001. Based on UNODC data, there has been more opium poppy cultivation in each of the past four growing seasons (2004–2007) than in any one year during Taliban rule. Also, more land is now used for opium in Afghanistan than for coca cultivation in Latin America. In 2007, 92% of the opiates on the world market originated in Afghanistan.
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    So if it's no problem for heroin to get into our country then it shouldn't be a concern for those wanting to bring krokodil in.
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    Re: Crocodile's Curse A New Illegal Drug

    Based on the article -- it's nothing they need to bring in. And I suspect that the "rot" and several of the other side effects are as much a result of infection and other problems that accompany any IV drug as the effects of anything the drug is made with. Don't get me wrong -- cook up a drug using crappy stuff and you're not doing your body any favors, but I bet infection, damage to the veins and skin, and the like. For example, I arrested a long-time heroin user some years back that needed to be medically cleared. They almost did a cut-down, his skin and veins were so bad... his skin literally "popped" when they put the needle in.
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