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    Black Belt Forms for your TSD School

    In my school we only have first and second degree forms. To test for third, you can do whatever form you want. I'm choosing my second degree forms now.

    Here is a list of our 1st and 2nd degree forms:

    1st: Chinte, Bassai Dai, Kanku Dai, Sa Bang Kwan, Jion, Chinto

    2nd: Kae Bek (An ITF TKD form), Sip Soo, Enpi, Lohai, TenChi (made up by some dude in the 60/70s), Bassai Sho, Kanku Sho, Naihanchi 3

    Chung-mu used to be a 1st degree form for us.

    I need to pick 3 to perform and six to have "down" total for my test.

    I can also pick from outside the list to perform for one choice. I'll probably do Ee Sip Sa Bo (Nijyushiho).

    Anyone else got a list of BB forms?

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    Re: Black Belt Forms for your TSD School

    1st Dan forms: Chang Kwon (Offensive), No Hai, Chulki Cho Dan, Bong Hyung Sa Chol
    2nd Dan forms: Chang Kwon (Defensive), Ahm Hak, Chulki Yi Dan
    3rd Dan forms: Bassai So, Wanshu, Chulki Sam Dan
    4th Dan forms: So Ho Yon, Taijo Kwon, Cha un, Kong Son Kun, Ban Wol
    5th Dan forms: Oh Ship Sa Bo, Jin Soo, Bong Hyung Oh Chol
    6th Dan forms: Ship Pal, Sabang Kwon
    7th Dan forms: Palgi Kwon (only one I can remember for this level)

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    Re: Black Belt Forms for your TSD School

    Sa bang kwan is 6th Dan at your school?

    I tested with it at first... But many schools put it at 4th or higher. I'd love to get a chance to work out with a GM Kim Soo student!!!

    Thanks for the post.

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    Re: Black Belt Forms for your TSD School

    Quote Originally Posted by JWLuiza View Post
    Sa bang kwan is 6th Dan at your school?

    I tested with it at first... But many schools put it at 4th or higher. I'd love to get a chance to work out with a GM Kim Soo student!!!

    Thanks for the post.
    In 1993, Grandmaster Kim Ki-whang taught SaBang Kwon to Grandmaster Kim Soo and asked him to preserve it. I didn't ask why he put the form at 6th Dan, but assume it is because he wanted his most dedicated long-term students learning it from him.

    Here's a story on how we got the form: http://www.kimsookarate.com/contribu...kimkiwhang.pdf


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    Re: Black Belt Forms for your TSD School

    I'm not sure exactly what you mean...we have to know _all_ the forms we've learned.

    For tests, though, we usually do the highest regular form we know (jin tae for me...correct my spelling if it's wrong), the highest kee-ma form we know (kee ma hyung sam dan for me), the highest bong form we know (bong hyung sam dan), and one of the pyong ahn forms, typically the one with the level above which we are (since I'm an e-dan, that means pyong ahn sam dan for me). But of course they can ask us to do any form below that, and we have to know it.

    Is it worse than pre-testing, when I had to do hyung sam bu through pyong ahn o dan with no choon bee in between forms? Yeah.

    Anyway, hope that was helpful. I dunno what forms are next for me, but I'll find out when I get there.
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    Question Re: Black Belt Forms for your TSD School

    speaking of black belt forms; has anyone seen or have a link to the neh gong katas. i belive there are three: cho dan, e dan , and sam dan. also if anyone knows the origin of these katas, it would be great.

    thanks for the help
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    Re: Black Belt Forms for your TSD School

    Quote Originally Posted by bigkicks View Post
    speaking of black belt forms; has anyone seen or have a link to the neh gong katas. i belive there are three: cho dan, e dan , and sam dan. also if anyone knows the origin of these katas, it would be great.

    thanks for the help
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    ne gong referring to inner power? never heard of forms with that name. could you describe them?
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    Re: Black Belt Forms for your TSD School

    they are shen-shan katas(pardon my spelling), deep breathing. very strong powerful but slow. standard" I" formation kata, i belive they are from the original moo duk kwan system.

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    Re: Black Belt Forms for your TSD School

    OH........MY................GOD................... ........, Um, sorry, got carried away...........................

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    Re: Black Belt Forms for your TSD School

    Quote Originally Posted by bigkicks View Post
    they are shen-shan katas(pardon my spelling), deep breathing. very strong powerful but slow. standard" I" formation kata, i belive they are from the original moo duk kwan system.
    Sounds cool. If you can find a link to a video, I'd be interested to see them.
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    Re: Black Belt Forms for your TSD School

    Here is the list of the original 39 forms of Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan, before they added chil sung or yuk ro:

    Wei Ga Ryu(southern chinese)
    1. Ki Cho Hyung Il Bu
    2. Ki Cho Hyung Ee Bu
    3. Ki Cho Hyung Sam Bu
    4. Pyung Ahn Cho Dan
    5. Pyung Ahn Ee Dan
    6. Pyung Ahn Sam Dan
    7. Pyung Ahn Sa Dan
    8. Pyung Ahn Oh Dan
    9. Bba Che (Bassai) Dae
    10. Bba Che (Bassai) So
    11. Jin Do
    12. Oh Ship Sa Bo
    13. Wang Shu
    14. Tjin
    15. So Rim Jang Kwon
    16. Dam De (Dam Toi)
    17. Kong Sang Koon Dae
    18. Kong Sang Koon So
    19. Rohai Cho Dan
    20. Rohai Ee Dan
    21. Rohai Sam Dan
    22. Ee Ship Sa (Ee Ship Sa Bo)
    23. Woon Shu

    Nei Ga Ryu(northern chinese)
    1. Tsan Tjin
    2. Jun Jang
    3. Ssi San
    4. Ssi Boai
    5. Bae Rin Bba
    6. Ssan Ssi Bbai
    7. Sei San
    8. So Jin
    9. Sai Hoo Ah
    10. Goo Reung Hoo Ah
    11. Jin De (Jin Toi or Ship Soo)
    12. Ji On
    13. Tae Kuk Kwon
    14. Ne Bo Jin (Nai Han Ji) Cho Dan
    15. Ne Bo Jin (Nai Han Ji) Ee Dan
    16. Ne Bo Jin (Nai Han Ji) Sam Dan

    Any Other forms where either added from other Kwans of Tang Soo Do, or were created more recently, as where the Chil Sung and Yuk Ro hyung in Moo Duk Kwan. I personally only use these 39 hyung, as taught to my teacher by Hwang Kee.
    Last edited by Muwubu16858; 01-19-2007 at 06:47 PM. Reason: It didn't form well as a list, had to reconfigure it.

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