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    steven seagal's aikido

    what is the name of the style of aikido that steven seagal teaches? what makes it different from other styles of aikido.
    does anyone know of any schools in va that teaches his style of aikido? i have seen schools on line in Florida but not in va.

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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    Ki Society I think.

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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    check the search engine on the forum for Seagal, this question has already been asked and answered.

    or try Japanese martial arts General
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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    Drummingman, do you do Aikido already? How much exposure have you had to Aikido in general?

    I'm not trying to be offensive or anything, but I wonder are you interested in Seagal Shihan's Aikido because of his movies, or for it's own sake?

    To my knowledge, it is very hard to get to Seagal even if you study under him. I'm not implying that you are a celebrity chaser, but celebrity chasers don't have much of a chance.

    Seagal is a legitimate Aikidoka. He calls his form Tenshin, from the name of his original dojo, but insists that it is Aikikai style and that there is only one Aikido, invented by O Sensei. There are differences in his art, but to be fair there are differences in execution and form for many high level shihans.

    His Aikido might be described as empty hand swordfighting. He loves irimi, or entering. Contrary to internet rumor, he doesn't do "a little of this, a little of that". He maintains a close relationship with the Aikikai.

    One of his most influential Aikido teachers was Hiroshi Isoyama Shihan. Some of his long-time (but now former) students are Haruo Matsuoka (http://www.doshinokai.com/) and Larry Reynosa (http://www.makotodojo.com/). Luis Santos is a current student (http://www.tenshinaikido.com/tenshin/index.html). My sensei is a student of Luis Santos, Salvatore Forestieri (http://www.shinjitsudojo.com/).

    I don't know of any dojos in Virginia that teach Seagal's style. Not all dojos claiming to teach Seagal's style are good, and not all mainline-Aikikai dojos are soft and ineffective, as is often thought by Seagal fans. You will have to go to dojos and find one that is dedicated to teaching budo, rather than just dancing. They're out there, trust me.
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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    i don't do aikido no have i ever.but i have been to a class to watch and i have done a lot of reading on it.
    both.i like the way his movies show the effectiveness of his style of aikido(even though its all choreographed it shows the possibility of his aikido in a real fight).and also because i like the way that his style of aikido moves.
    im definitely not a celebrity chaser,i just like his style of aikido.

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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    I respect that. That's the same thing that got me involved in Aikido. Besides this forum, Aikiweb.com has some great Aikido instruction. I must warn you that reception of Seagal within the Aikido community is very mixed. Some respect him, and try to separate his Hollywood persona from his Aikido. Many don't like him, although many who don't are prone to say ignorant things in public internet forums!

    Best of luck to you. Like I said, check out those links I gave you above. There's definitely some solid Aikido in those groups. Try to make it to a seminar if you can. I know our group (Santos Sensei's) will often allow one to come to a seminar even without Aikido experience. Contact him if you are interested. And maybe check out this book: http://www.amazon.com/Beginner-s-Gui.../dp/0962526908

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    Mushi Mushi Re: steven seagal's aikido

    thanks stan for the links and kind words.

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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    Drummingman, Seagal Sensei uses ALOT of atemi (strikes) in his aikido in the movies. I've been told that atemi is like the trim in a house...it's there to cover up the rough edges. Aikido without atemi for the movies, however, would probably be pretty boring since the subtle nuances to balance breaking and redirection of energy don't come across too well on the screen. Yes, aikido can be effective on the street. There are several threads here about that very thing. If you're around the Roanoke area of Virginia then I heartily welcome you to my dojo to check things out. While mister Seagal wouldn't approve of us (we're Nihon Goshin) we do focus our efforts more on the self defense aspects of aikido than the spiritual. Good luck in your endeavor should you decide to take up the art and remember the invitation to our school is always good.
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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    Quote Originally Posted by theletch1 View Post
    Drummingman, Seagal Sensei uses ALOT of atemi (strikes) in his aikido in the movies.
    This is something that I think has made Seagal's aikido look a lot like hapkido at times, as hapkido tends to use a lot more striking, generally speaking.
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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    Drummingman,
    Have you seen these clips on good ol' Youtube?

    Check them out. You'll definitely recognize Seagal's style especially from the earlier movies, but this is what he looks like when he's doing Aikido, not Hollywood.





    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi_2BC4PDV4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyyFl...elated&search=

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YziUv...elated&search=

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=herSy...elated&search=

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM96F...elated&search=
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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    i have most of those videos.they are on his home movie that he was selling from his website.it's called "the path beyond thought".its very good if you can still buy it.im sure that you can find it on e bay.
    a few of the vids i have never seen.thanks for the links.i add a comment on the last link that you gave me.it was in response to a guy that was saying that aikido would not stand up in the ufc and pride.check it out,i think you will agree.

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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    You're talking about the 1996 Black and White demo, I assume? You mean you think I'll agree that Aikido wouldn't stand up in a MMA competition? Or that I'll agree that what's shown in that video clip refutes that assertion?

    I'm glad you've seen all of "The Path Beyond Thought". Do you recognize Craig Dunn and Larry Reynosa from any of the movies? Dunn was one of the convienience store thugs in "Hard to Kill" and Reynosa was one of the bodyguards at the casino in "Fire DownBelow". Just for fun!
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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    i made a post on there saying that aikido would stand up in a real fight.
    i did not know that that was larry and craig.thats cool,next time i watch those movies i will look for them.
    i just watched the last part of on deadly ground.im really surprised that it did not do well in the theater.it has a good stpry and some good fight scenes.

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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    Good posts everybody.. makes a nice change to see a Seagal thread with a bit of info and discussion! Cheers
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    Re: steven seagal's aikido

    You may also want to check with H. Matsuoka's video series from his dojo, this may give you more insight a la Tenshin ryu Aikido.
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