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    Unhappy Wearing your gi and belt in public

    I just have to get this out there and get everyone's opinion because it's been bugging me:

    A few days a week when I drive to work I see a guy who is always leaning against a bus stop pole waiting for the bus in his karate gi with his black belt on. He's got a back pack on his back which tells me he's probably got cloths he can change into. I always try to keep to my own but everytime I see this guy I want to honk at him and shake my fist - or stop and at least talk to him. It's not my business so I take a deep breath and keep driving

    What are everyone's thoughts on this? Instructors - how would you feel if you saw one of your black belts all posed up in public leaning on a pole like John Wayne?
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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    Quote Originally Posted by seninoniwashi View Post
    I just have to get this out there and get everyone's opinion because it's been bugging me:

    A few days a week when I drive to work I see a guy who is always leaning against a bus stop pole waiting for the bus in his karate gi with his black belt on. He's got a back pack on his back which tells me he's probably got cloths he can change into. I always try to keep to my own but everytime I see this guy I want to honk at him and shake my fist - or stop and at least talk to him. It's not my business so I take a deep breath and keep driving

    What are everyone's thoughts on this? Instructors - how would you feel if you saw one of your black belts all posed up in public leaning on a pole like John Wayne?
    Honestly, I have no philosophical objection. But I do find this dorky on an epic scale. Even just gi pants is pretty nerdy, but to wear the entire ensemble in public is cheesy to the nth degree.
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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    I ask my student's not to wear their gi in public. Its tacky and inappropriate.

    The closest I ever come to it is wearing my gi pants and tee shirt on the way to and from a workout. I don't wear the gi jacket and belt in public unless I'm doing a demo or at a tourney.

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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    I've done it. I normally take off the belt and wear a sweatshirt overtop or change out of my top into a t shirt....but I used to train at a place with no locker room and I had to stop to get things on the way home sometimes. honestly, I see no reason not to and I don't really get embarrassed. Plus, I'm so used to walking around in uniform all day....I guess I kind of think of it just like my regular uniform.

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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    Quote Originally Posted by stevebjj View Post
    Honestly, I have no philosophical objection. But I do find this dorky on an epic scale. Even just gi pants is pretty nerdy, but to wear the entire ensemble in public is cheesy to the nth degree.
    +1.

    Though I admit I usually change into my gi pants when I leave home so that I can change into my gi jacket in the dojo. The reason is that the changing rooms are usually occupied by the soccer guys, or have been occupied by the soccer guys. In one case it's overcrowded, in the other the floors are dirty with mud.

    That said, I park my car right next to the building inside the sporting grounds, so it's not like I am in public.

    Wearing gi and belt in public is fairly dorky, and likely to attract unwanted attention. But as you said, there are no philosophical objections. It is against Genbukan dress code though. We only wear our belt inside the dojo.
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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    I suppose that I might just assume that he is on his way to class, does not own a car, and wants to keep his street clothes fresh for after class.

    Honestly, who cares? Given some of the hideous things I have seen people wear in public, a gi is fine by me. I'd rather see that than openly offensive "message" tee shirts.

    Now, he certainly opens himself up to hecklers, but I figure that that is his own affair. Who knows? Maybe he just thinks that it is comfortable. It isn't as if a gi is some kind of mystical holy garment. My main concern if I were him, hecklers aside, is damaging that gold stitched belt, as those are generally more costly than the gi. Also, unlike the gi, the belt does have a fair amount of significance in that it was awarded by the school represents his hard work and effort. If he's wearing the 7.95 Karatedepot.com plain black belt, then those issues are negated.

    I figure its no worse than a guy who rides the bus in a three piece suit. He's not hurting anyone.

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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    Well, although I always preach the mantra of "each to their own" I've got to admit that this is something which I find ridiculous. Maybe I'm just plain shy, but the idea of leaning against a lamp post at a bus stop while dressed in a gi sends shivers through me, and I don't even practice anything which involves wearing a hakama!

    When I go caving I get changed into my suit and put on the hard hat once I've arrived at the location. Seems like the same thing to me.

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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    Personally... If you're not a 10 year old, it's dorky. At least take off the jacket and belt and carry them separately.

    Generally, even if I'm at a full day seminar or tournament, and going out for some lunch or something, I'll at least take off the jacket and belt. Day to day -- I change before class, and encourage my students to do the same. Why draw silly attention to yourself outside of class?

    But, then, of course... there's the whole Leroy Brown thing from The Last Dragon!
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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    Quote Originally Posted by seninoniwashi View Post
    I just have to get this out there and get everyone's opinion because it's been bugging me:

    A few days a week when I drive to work I see a guy who is always leaning against a bus stop pole waiting for the bus in his karate gi with his black belt on. He's got a back pack on his back which tells me he's probably got cloths he can change into. I always try to keep to my own but everytime I see this guy I want to honk at him and shake my fist - or stop and at least talk to him. It's not my business so I take a deep breath and keep driving

    What are everyone's thoughts on this? Instructors - how would you feel if you saw one of your black belts all posed up in public leaning on a pole like John Wayne?
    Me personally, I dont like to wear anything MA related out in public. Things like demos are different, but to walk around, say, after a class, to the store, waiting on the street for a ride, etc., no, I would not do that. Why? Too many people out there, who thrive on seeing stuff like that, and use that as an excuse to challenge you, start saying stupid stuff like asking if you thought you could kick their ass, etc.

    If someone else wants to wear their uniform outside, thats fine with me.

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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    Quote Originally Posted by MJS View Post
    Me personally, I dont like to wear anything MA related out in public. Things like demos are different, but to walk around, say, after a class, to the store, waiting on the street for a ride, etc., no, I would not do that. Why? Too many people out there, who thrive on seeing stuff like that, and use that as an excuse to challenge you, start saying stupid stuff like asking if you thought you could kick their ass, etc.

    If someone else wants to wear their uniform outside, thats fine with me.
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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    Full Karategi and black (or any) belt leaning on a light pole at a bus stop (or going to Walmart, Wendy's or the post office, for that matter)...IMHO = massive tool bag.

    Wearing karategi pants while carrying top and belt, wearing a tshirt and jacket...no different than sweatpants.

    My choice and own personal practice...only the tshirt, socks and drawers that I am going to be wearing under my karategi and workout shoes are acceptable as out-of-practice wear. They usually go well with jeans and boots anyway...

    School related t-shirts or jackets or hats...wear with discretion and know that folks judge your school by your actions and you by the reputation of that school. I also would recommend against wearing anything that is clearly emblazoned "BLACK BELT," "FUTURE BLACK BELT," or "MY [insert relative here] IS A BLACK BELT (especially when walking with said relative).


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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    Quote Originally Posted by stevebjj View Post
    Honestly, I have no philosophical objection. But I do find this dorky on an epic scale. Even just gi pants is pretty nerdy, but to wear the entire ensemble in public is cheesy to the nth degree.
    Ditto.

    I wouldn't walk around in my motocross boots, gloves and goggles either.

    Some people just are dying to be recognized for something they are involved in. Dorky on an epic scale sums it up perfectly.

    Of course, I hate wearing a gi even in class.
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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    I usually wear my gi pants or grappling shorts in public if I'm in a hurry, right before class. They're super comfy.

    But I try not to, if I can. I don't want to track dirt into the gym with my just-sat-in-a-funky-pee-stained-train-seat pants/shorts.
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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    I usually roll up my gi and wrap it in the belt. Finding a dressing room/locker room isn't a big deal for me. I'll change clothes pretty much anywhere, as long as it's got room to breathe. In fact, because I'm claustrophobic, I'm more likely to change in public than in a bathroom stall or changing room, just because I get panicky within seconds if I don't have at least arms' length around me to move.

    Of course, I'm sensitive to kids and won't drop trow just anywhere. I try to be aware of the females, too, but we share a changing room at my BJJ school, and while I try to look out for the women, it's not enough of a priority to get me to step into one of the windowless coffins my school calls changing stalls.

    All of this simply to say, I'll change clothes pretty much anywhere rather than wear my gi around town, although we all get caught unprepared from time to time. I had to wear my Gameness gi pants into a grocery store once and was very self conscious.
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    Re: Wearing your gi and belt in public

    Quote Originally Posted by K831 View Post
    Ditto.

    I wouldn't walk around in my motocross boots, gloves and goggles either.

    Some people just are dying to be recognized for something they are involved in. Dorky on an epic scale sums it up perfectly.

    Of course, I hate wearing a gi even in class.
    I went with my son to eat hot wings on his birthday. This is one of those places that has the typical hotwing challenge. If you can eat 7 of their #7s (their hottest wings) in 7 minutes, you get a t-shirt and your picture on their wall. My son got it in his head that he wanted to try this so for his 14th birthday he and I went for it.

    Well, it was only after doing this that I realized there were a few people in the wing place wearing these shirts. One came up before we started to give us pointers. It was clear that this was the most important thing he'd ever done in his life. Pretty sad.
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