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    Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    wich one do u prefer and why? i actually cant decide between either of them but id like to hear youre opinions to decide wich one to practice

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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    Well I am bias at best since I have been doing TKD for 25 years, I guess it is the Art and all the SD principle that is involved thoughout the style. Before TKD it was Okinwa Karate and they seem to mix pretty well together.
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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by terryl965 View Post
    Well I am bias at best since I have been doing TKD for 25 years, I guess it is the Art and all the SD principle that is involved thoughout the style. Before TKD it was Okinwa Karate and they seem to mix pretty well together.
    I think that's pretty much what you're going to find—the TKD people will prefer TKD and the CMA people will prefer the CMA that they do. And I'm willing to bet that if you ask someone who does both of them (there must be at least a few such on the board), mostly you'll hear that they're both good.
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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    I agree with what has been posted here so far but I need to clarify one thing

    TKD is Tae Kwon Do

    Kung Fu is Pick One

    And that is only a partial list
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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Xue Sheng View Post
    ...And that is only a partial list
    I've seen that list before somewhere, XS. And it seems like you could spend a lifetime just learning the names of the various CMA styles, let alone learning one of the styles itself!

    To me, that's great, one of the terrific things about the CMAs. You have to be glad there was no central CMA directorate a few hundred years back stamping out all the variants to produce a monoclonal one-size-fits-all product...
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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    Check out as many schools as possible & find the best match for you. Both systems have good & bad schools so you will have to sort them out.

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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by exile View Post
    I've seen that list before somewhere, XS. And it seems like you could spend a lifetime just learning the names of the various CMA styles, let alone learning one of the styles itself!

    To me, that's great, one of the terrific things about the CMAs. You have to be glad there was no central CMA directorate a few hundred years back stamping out all the variants to produce a monoclonal one-size-fits-all product...
    Not wishing to hijack the post but yes... and no.

    The variety is mighty cool and looking at things form different perspectives is good but I can do without the politics, lineage fights and true, secret, direct, fake transmissions.

    But I do love the CMA styles so I guess more yes than no
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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    Honestly, I find the practitioner needs to see what art fits their physical and physological abilities.

    Long time ago, Master Chu told us that Kung Fu masters were very very good (Chu was 7 dan Tang So Do and 8th dan Tae Kwon Do himself.) He also said it took 10 years to get a 'black belt', if that's the term, in Kung Fu. He said the motions they used were not natural and thus took alot of time to prefect.

    Still, to me the style reflects the inner person. I prefer striking (heaven know what a shrink would interpet that) and lots of physical activity. Others might find more subtile methods to their liking or grappling or methods that flow and are artistic.

    So I really don't care about TKD .vs. KF or SBD .vs. JuJitsu or ishen ryu .vs. Muy Thai, etc....

    There are outstanding pratictioners in every art that I wouldn't want to mess with!

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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Xue Sheng View Post
    Not wishing to hijack the post but yes... and no.

    The variety is mighty cool and looking at things form different perspectives is good but I can do without the politics, lineage fights and true, secret, direct, fake transmissions.

    But I do love the CMA styles so I guess more yes than no
    I have to agree with XS on this. The variety of CMA is a great attraction for me. Even though I have only briefly dabbled in JKD and have trained extensively in bagua I still have a sense of variety. It may be the nature of the internal arts or it may simply be the interconnectedness of the CMAs, but studying even a single style as I do you get a variety of areas into which to develop. We have striking techniques (hands and feet), grappling techniques, movement strategies, weapons training, and qigong training. Even staying within the one style one can specialise in one of these subsets.

    One of the impressions I get of TKD is a lack of that variety. Furthermore, I get an impression that it was probably once there, but the art has been paired down to an efficient minimum. That's fine, but it limits the areas one can specialise in within the art.

    One area in which TKD and the CMAs are very similar is politicking and lineage fighting. But in this TKD has the advantage of actually having many living founders, the CMAs cannot really make this boast as most newly developed styles have been built on the shoulders of long dead giants. As a result lineage disputes can be monumental, take a look at Yang taiji for an example.

    But, like XS, I think that the good outweighs the bad.
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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    I don't know much about Kung Fu, so I really can't speak to it. I've been into TKD for 4 years now, and I do like the simplicty with which the art is constructed (simple to me, anyway. A series of stances and positions upon which everything is built). Not so much a tremendous amount of movement and technique, but more of a focus on how to combine these movements and techniques into different patterns and series. On top of that, to echo what somebody else said, the SD component is nice as well.

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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Tiger View Post
    One of the impressions I get of TKD is a lack of that variety. Furthermore, I get an impression that it was probably once there, but the art has been paired down to an efficient minimum. That's fine, but it limits the areas one can specialise in within the art.
    That's until you get into the politics etc. Then you get people practicing the exact same style right down the pre class warmup sessions telling you you're not doing "true TKD" etc, not to mention the various spins the numerous Kwans have put on TKD from one to the next. At that point it seems just as pissy as the next art.
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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    It depends on so many things--your body type and movement style, what you want out of the martial arts, etc. Both can work! Try some schools.

    As mentioned, while TKD orgs. vary, kung fu really covers a lot of territory. Northern and Southern styles can feel quite different, for example.

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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    I would prefer to train TKD and watch Kung Fu movies
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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by zDom View Post
    I would prefer to train TKD and watch Kung Fu movies
    I would prefer to train Kung Fu and watch TKD in the Olympics .

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    Re: Tae kwon do vs. Kung Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by QUI-GON View Post
    I would prefer to watch TKD in the Olympics .


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