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    Grandmaster in Korean?

    Can anyone tell me how to translate Grandmaster to Korean? Normally I'd use Sabuhmnim (but I want to distinguish from the Master of our school) or Kwanjangnim (but he's not the head of our or any school).

    Any ideas?

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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    As with many things direct Translations May not be possible.

    ITF does this (Phonetic Spellings)

    Boo Sa Bum = Assistant instructor = Degrees 1-3
    Sa Bum = Instructor = Degrees 4-6
    Sa Hyung = Master Instructor = Degree 7-8
    Sa Sung = Grandmaster = 9th Dan
    Chong Shee Ja = Founder

    Nim is a suffix menaing "With Respect' or "respectful' it is never used to refer to ones self.

    Kwan Jang is Korean for head of a group or even a school.

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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    Kwan Jang Nim - Head of the taekwondo school

    Sok Ho Kang - Grand Master

    Sah Bum Nim - Instructor, above Sa Dan Ja

    Boo Sah Nim - Assistant instructor, Ee and Sa Dan Ja

    Jo Kyo nim - Junior Instructor

    Je Ja - Pupil

    Yu Gup Ja - Junior rank holder (color belt)

    Yu Dan Ja - Balck belt holder

    I hope that this helps
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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Weiss View Post
    As with many things direct Translations May not be possible.
    So true...

    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Weiss View Post
    ITF does this (Phonetic Spellings)
    Sa Hyung = Master Instructor = Degree 7-8
    Sa Sung = Grandmaster = 9th Dan
    It's tricky, he's not ITF, is an 8th Dan and is referred to as Grandmaster "X". I guess Sa Sung would be correct then... In Han'gul I guess this is : 사승?

    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Weiss View Post
    Nim is a suffix menaing "With Respect' or "respectful' it is never used to refer to ones self.
    Knew that one, thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Weiss View Post
    Kwan Jang is Korean for head of a group or even a school.
    It's complicated, he's the founder of our school but has nothing to do with it now. I don't want to cause offence to our school's current master.

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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    Quote Originally Posted by terryl965 View Post
    Kwan Jang Nim - Head of the taekwondo school

    Sok Ho Kang - Grand Master
    As per my answer to Earl, he's not really the head of our school any more. I guess Sok Ho Kang (속호강?) or Sa Sung is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyjeffries View Post
    As per my answer to Earl, he's not really the head of our school any more. I guess Sok Ho Kang (속호강?) or Sa Sung is better.
    If he is a GrandMaster than the approbiate way to addres him would be Sok Ho Kang and his last name, this will show respect but also not offend the current school owner.
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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    In my dojang: kio bonim =isntructor 1st Dan, kyo sa nim= instructor 2nd and 3rd dan, sam bo nim= profesor.

    We don't use the word master or grandmaster, we use the palabra Profesor (profesor).

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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    그랜드마쓰태르 Grand Master

    Here are your characters but I will have to get back to you on the phonetics to speak. I found that our GM made his own interpretations of how to pronounce in English based on his preference not necessarilly a formal Romanization of a word but what he thought we could understand and pronounce.

    Unless somone cares to jump in I will ask my GM Professor to give his phonetic explanation and get back to you.

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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    Quote Originally Posted by andyjeffries View Post
    Can anyone tell me how to translate Grandmaster to Korean? Normally I'd use Sabuhmnim (but I want to distinguish from the Master of our school) or Kwanjangnim (but he's not the head of our or any school).

    Any ideas?
    I think the simplest and best answer would come from him. Just ask "Sir, How would you prefer to be addressed."

    I have asked this question of Royce Gracie (Saying Mr. , Master or Maestro Gracie could draw a crownd in some circumstances) as well as General Choi.

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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master Dan View Post
    그랜드마쓰태르 Grand Master

    [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Here are your characters but I will have to get back to you on the phonetics to speak.
    I can read Han'gul - what you have is literally the English words Grand and Master written in Han'gul, but not translated in to Korean. For example Apple translated phonetically is something like 앞플 but the Korean word for Apple is Sagwa or 사과.

    Thanks anyway, but I think transliterating the word in to the Korean alphabet won't be right ;-)

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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Weiss View Post
    I think the simplest and best answer would come from him. Just ask "Sir, How would you prefer to be addressed."
    He is addressed in English as Grandmaster X. However, this is for an embroidered belt with our club logo on (that he founded) and it's a gift from our Master (neither our Master nor this Grandmaster are Korean). I can't ask him because it will give away the surprise ;-)

    I'll probably go with Sok Ho Kang. Thanks everyone.

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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    Quote Originally Posted by terryl965 View Post
    Kwan Jang Nim - Head of the taekwondo school

    Sok Ho Kang - Grand Master

    Sah Bum Nim - Instructor, above Sa Dan Ja

    Boo Sah Nim - Assistant instructor, Ee and Sa Dan Ja

    Jo Kyo nim - Junior Instructor

    Je Ja - Pupil

    Yu Gup Ja - Junior rank holder (color belt)

    Yu Dan Ja - Balck belt holder

    I hope that this helps
    Terry, Sok Ho Kang is my Kwan Jang Nim's name.. . If you got this from my earlier Korean terminology post, I'm sorry for the confusion.
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    ROFL Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    Quote Originally Posted by SahBumNimRush View Post
    Terry, Sok Ho Kang is my Kwan Jang Nim's name.. . If you got this from my earlier Korean terminology post, I'm sorry for the confusion.
    That's funny as hell!!! Nearly had my grandmaster's belt embroidered with your grandmaster's name as a title!


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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    Quote Originally Posted by SahBumNimRush View Post
    Terry, Sok Ho Kang is my Kwan Jang Nim's name.. . If you got this from my earlier Korean terminology post, I'm sorry for the confusion.
    OK why do I have this down as the title for Grand Master, I hope my office lady did not mix up my files when she re-did my computer. Man I feel like an idiot right now.

    Ok here is the right way sorry for the files being mixed up.


    Asst. Instructor (1-3) pu-sa-bom

    Instructor (4-6) Sa-bom

    Instructor Sir Sa-bom-nim

    Master Instructor Sa-Hyon

    GrandMaster Sa-song

    Sorry for any confusion, I now need to go back and fix all my files that she but in the wrong order, damm computers so much easier the way I had the in index cards.
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    Re: Grandmaster in Korean?

    Serious question:

    Are there actually living people in Korea that call themselves or require people to call them "Grand Master" or is that just for us in the west?

    I am truly just curious and the reason I ask is that there are no Grand Masters in China or anyone in China that calls themselves or requires their students to call them Grand Master that is only for the westerners.
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